Virtualize W2003 R2 licensing problem.
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Hi.
I've an old server with W2003 R2 installed, in this server we have and old ERP, Navision Attain 3.0, it's still in use for his historic data.
I want to virtualize this machine because have same hardware problems.
The problem are the licences for Windoes 2003 for the virtual machine.
How can I get a W2003 Retail Licence now?
Is there any alternative?
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The problem is that you have lost the license you mean? Windows 2003 can just be virtualized, I believe. No special license needed.
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@scottalanmiller said:
The problem is that you have lost the license you mean? Windows 2003 can just be virtualized, I believe. No special license needed.
It's an OEM license, so it cannot be used for the virtualization, isn't it?
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@iroal said:
@scottalanmiller said:
The problem is that you have lost the license you mean? Windows 2003 can just be virtualized, I believe. No special license needed.
It's an OEM license, so it cannot be used for the virtualization, isn't it?
From my understanding, and past Microsoft officials, you can run the OEM license virtualized as long as it is on the same physical hardware.
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@coliver said:
@iroal said:
@scottalanmiller said:
The problem is that you have lost the license you mean? Windows 2003 can just be virtualized, I believe. No special license needed.
It's an OEM license, so it cannot be used for the virtualization, isn't it?
From my understanding, and past Microsoft officials, you can run the OEM license virtualized as long as it is on the same physical hardware.
It's other server so It's not the same physical hardware
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@iroal said:
@scottalanmiller said:
The problem is that you have lost the license you mean? Windows 2003 can just be virtualized, I believe. No special license needed.
It's an OEM license, so it cannot be used for the virtualization, isn't it?
Correct - you cannot use an OEM license on different physical hardware. You would need some kind of volume license or retail license of Server 2003. If you have Server 2008 Standard or something like that which is not in use you may be able to license that Server 2003 machine. But I am not sure MS' licensing portal would show the key.
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@iroal said:
@scottalanmiller said:
The problem is that you have lost the license you mean? Windows 2003 can just be virtualized, I believe. No special license needed.
It's an OEM license, so it cannot be used for the virtualization, isn't it?
Oh, that's a different issue. YOu just need to get new licensing in that case.
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@coliver said:
@iroal said:
@scottalanmiller said:
The problem is that you have lost the license you mean? Windows 2003 can just be virtualized, I believe. No special license needed.
It's an OEM license, so it cannot be used for the virtualization, isn't it?
From my understanding, and past Microsoft officials, you can run the OEM license virtualized as long as it is on the same physical hardware.
Yes, that you can do.
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So the first questions....
- Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
- Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
- Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@iroal said:
@scottalanmiller said:
The problem is that you have lost the license you mean? Windows 2003 can just be virtualized, I believe. No special license needed.
It's an OEM license, so it cannot be used for the virtualization, isn't it?
Oh, that's a different issue. YOu just need to get new licensing in that case.
I agree, but I will say we had to virtualize an XP box last year, and when one my techs called MS about how to license the VM with the key we had (since he had trouble applying it to activate over the internet and via phone), they told him they did not care because XP is no longer supported. I wonder if they would say the same about Server 2003?
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@scottalanmiller said:
So the first questions....
- Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
- Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
- Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?
Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(
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@iroal my only question to this is why not P2V the system and reactive the system with a new product key.
Or purchase a 2003 R2 key, and build a new VM and then setup the environment, importing the data etc. Yes you have to spend on licensing, but you have to anyways.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@iroal my only question to this is why not P2V the system and reactive the system with a new product key.
Or purchase a 2003 R2 key, and build a new VM and then setup the environment, importing the data etc. Yes you have to spend on licensing, but you have to anyways.
Can I buy an W2003 OEM license or I need a Retail version ?
I've seen W2003 Oem in Ebay
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I would assume retail (but I'm no licensing expert)
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@DustinB3403 said:
I would assume retail (but I'm no licensing expert)
He can use OEM. Just cannot move the VM around.
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I'll use same key, I'll try to activate via phone, in case It does not work I'll buy a new Oem License in Ebay.
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@iroal said:
@scottalanmiller said:
So the first questions....
- Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
- Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
- Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?
Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(
If it were me, and I had the install software for Navision, I would try to install it on win2008 server - if it works great, if not, well you know for sure now. In either case, I'm sure you're talking about a piece of software that no longer actually has company support, so the fact that the support documentation says 2003 is not relevant.
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@iroal said:
I'll use same key, I'll try to activate via phone, in case It does not work I'll buy a new Oem License in Ebay.
This would be illegal, technically, assuming you don't buy another license. Legally you need to buy either another OEM or a retail version or a volume license for something current, then use downgrade rights to use the 2003 server.
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@Dashrender said:
@iroal said:
@scottalanmiller said:
So the first questions....
- Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
- Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
- Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?
Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(
If it were me, and I had the install software for Navision, I would try to install it on win2008 server - if it works great, if not, well you know for sure now. In either case, I'm sure you're talking about a piece of software that no longer actually has company support, so the fact that the support documentation says 2003 is not relevant.
I tried but It didn't work, It just work in W2000 or W2003.
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@iroal said:
@Dashrender said:
@iroal said:
@scottalanmiller said:
So the first questions....
- Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
- Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
- Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?
Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(
If it were me, and I had the install software for Navision, I would try to install it on win2008 server - if it works great, if not, well you know for sure now. In either case, I'm sure you're talking about a piece of software that no longer actually has company support, so the fact that the support documentation says 2003 is not relevant.
I tried but It didn't work, It just work in W2000 or W2003.
Oh wow - that's even more telling about how probably poor the coding is. Sorry Bro.
