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    • iroalI
      iroal @DustinB3403
      last edited by

      @DustinB3403 said:

      @iroal my only question to this is why not P2V the system and reactive the system with a new product key.

      Or purchase a 2003 R2 key, and build a new VM and then setup the environment, importing the data etc. Yes you have to spend on licensing, but you have to anyways.

      Can I buy an W2003 OEM license or I need a Retail version ?

      I've seen W2003 Oem in Ebay

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        I would assume retail (but I'm no licensing expert)

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said:

          I would assume retail (but I'm no licensing expert)

          He can use OEM. Just cannot move the VM around.

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          • iroalI
            iroal @JaredBusch
            last edited by iroal

            I'll use same key, I'll try to activate via phone, in case It does not work I'll buy a new Oem License in Ebay.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @iroal
              last edited by

              @iroal said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              So the first questions....

              1. Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
              2. Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
              3. Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?

              Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(

              If it were me, and I had the install software for Navision, I would try to install it on win2008 server - if it works great, if not, well you know for sure now. In either case, I'm sure you're talking about a piece of software that no longer actually has company support, so the fact that the support documentation says 2003 is not relevant.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @iroal
                last edited by

                @iroal said:

                I'll use same key, I'll try to activate via phone, in case It does not work I'll buy a new Oem License in Ebay.

                This would be illegal, technically, assuming you don't buy another license. Legally you need to buy either another OEM or a retail version or a volume license for something current, then use downgrade rights to use the 2003 server.

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                • iroalI
                  iroal @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @iroal said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  So the first questions....

                  1. Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
                  2. Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
                  3. Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?

                  Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(

                  If it were me, and I had the install software for Navision, I would try to install it on win2008 server - if it works great, if not, well you know for sure now. In either case, I'm sure you're talking about a piece of software that no longer actually has company support, so the fact that the support documentation says 2003 is not relevant.

                  I tried but It didn't work, It just work in W2000 or W2003.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @iroal
                    last edited by

                    @iroal said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @iroal said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    So the first questions....

                    1. Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
                    2. Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
                    3. Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?

                    Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(

                    If it were me, and I had the install software for Navision, I would try to install it on win2008 server - if it works great, if not, well you know for sure now. In either case, I'm sure you're talking about a piece of software that no longer actually has company support, so the fact that the support documentation says 2003 is not relevant.

                    I tried but It didn't work, It just work in W2000 or W2003.

                    Oh wow - that's even more telling about how probably poor the coding is. Sorry Bro.

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                    • V
                      vmnomad
                      last edited by

                      I have spent a couple of days before I figured out how to P2V W2003 R2 server and put all my steps in a short blog post herelink text

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                      • iroalI
                        iroal @vmnomad
                        last edited by

                        @vmnomad said:

                        I have spent a couple of days before I figured out how to P2V W2003 R2 server and put all my steps in a short blog post herelink text

                        Nice Tutorial, thank you.

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                        • iroalI
                          iroal @Dashrender
                          last edited by iroal

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @iroal said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @iroal said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          So the first questions....

                          1. Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
                          2. Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
                          3. Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?

                          Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(

                          If it were me, and I had the install software for Navision, I would try to install it on win2008 server - if it works great, if not, well you know for sure now. In either case, I'm sure you're talking about a piece of software that no longer actually has company support, so the fact that the support documentation says 2003 is not relevant.

                          I tried but It didn't work, It just work in W2000 or W2003.

                          Oh wow - that's even more telling about how probably poor the coding is. Sorry Bro.

                          I've spend days trying to create at least a portable version for Navision Client, and It was impossible.

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                            vmnomad @iroal
                            last edited by

                            @iroal I am wondering if VMware ThinApp could help you to run Navision Client on W2008

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                            • iroalI
                              iroal @vmnomad
                              last edited by

                              @vmnomad said:

                              @iroal I am wondering if VMware ThinApp could help you to run Navision Client on W2008

                              I made the test but It crashes, only solution was use Xp mode in W7.

                              Now the problem It's what to do with Windows 10 users, Xp mode is not included in W10..

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                Is that a client server application? i.e. something has to be installed client side as well?

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                                • iroalI
                                  iroal @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Is that a client server application? i.e. something has to be installed client side as well?

                                  Yes It's the typical Server/Client Application.
                                  Server only works in W2000 W2003 and client in W2000 or Xp.

                                  It's not possible to upgrade because of all the change done in the original model, next version Navison 4.0 can be install in W7 and W2008.

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                                  • IT-ADMINI
                                    IT-ADMIN
                                    last edited by

                                    i recently virtualize a WIN Server 2008 R2, and it didn't ask me for activation, i wonder if it will be the case with you, i hope so

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
                                      last edited by

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      i recently virtualize a WIN Server 2008 R2, and it didn't ask me for activation, i wonder if it will be the case with you, i hope so

                                      Even if it doesn't require re-activation, he's still legally required to have a license for it.
                                      re-activation should be about the easiest part of this situation.

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                                        vmnomad @IT-ADMIN
                                        last edited by

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        i recently virtualize a WIN Server 2008 R2, and it didn't ask me for activation, i wonder if it will be the case with you, i hope so

                                        Was it under OEM license?

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @vmnomad
                                          last edited by

                                          @vmnomad said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          i recently virtualize a WIN Server 2008 R2, and it didn't ask me for activation, i wonder if it will be the case with you, i hope so

                                          Was it under OEM license?

                                          Does not matter. What matters is that you have a legally owned license.

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                                            vmnomad @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @JaredBusch I thought OEM license binds you to specific hardware. So if you move OS off that server the license is still legally owned, but will prohibit you from running OS on another server

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