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    • RoopanKumarR
      RoopanKumar
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      We have already activated windows server in my company but now I have installed new windows 2008 server so I asked my senior for key he said check with the other server take that key and activate this server, now am unable to take the key form the server so give me some solution or how to take without using or installing a third party software.

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      • nadnerBN
        nadnerB
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        Buy a license or get a volume license agreement with Microsoft.

        If your senior doesn't want to pay for a Windows Server license, then he should not be using Windows.
        A Windows license is part of the cost of doing business when using Windows.

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        • RoopanKumarR
          RoopanKumar @nadnerB
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          @nadnerB for your kind information we have license but he is not telling to me he is telling to find from the server installed and to give

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            They key cannot just be found, you need a tool to extract it. This is the most common one of which I know.

            https://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @RoopanKumar
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              @RoopanKumar said:

              @nadnerB for your kind information we have license but he is not telling to me he is telling to find from the server installed and to give

              How do you know you have the correct licenses? If you do have correct and valid licenses, then your senior should have the key either on paper forms from Full Box Product, or in the MSLC licensing portal on microsoft's website. There should be no need for you to extract a key from a running server in a legal setup.

              If you've lost the paper copies, well, then you don't legally have those licenses anymore, so that's not excuse either.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                If you're in a part of the world that doesn't pay attention to legal licensing issues - well good luck with that, and I'm hoping these forums won't openly participate in helping you buy pass those fees.

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                  Carnival Boy
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                  So long as you are licenced, is there anything wrong with activating with a different key?

                  If so, I don't see what is wrong with helping the OP instead of accusing him of engaging in illegal activities.

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                    Jason Banned
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                    This sounds illegal. If do you have a seat to cover the new server.. you don't just get one license you need to buy one for each server. If You you are using volume the key will be on MS VLSC so you wouldn't need to do this.

                    If it's retail you need a different key for each server, so you don't want to activate in this method. You will need to get the key from a new retail copy you bought, not from the installed one.

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                      Jason Banned @RoopanKumar
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                      @RoopanKumar said:

                      @nadnerB for your kind information we have license but he is not telling to me he is telling to find from the server installed and to give

                      Sounds like his is covering up for not properly licensed systems.

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                        LAH3385 @Jason
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                        @Jason said:

                        @RoopanKumar said:

                        @nadnerB for your kind information we have license but he is not telling to me he is telling to find from the server installed and to give

                        Sounds like his is covering up for not properly licensed systems.

                        Or poor documentation and he doesn't have the key on him, thus the quest to dig up key from other system.

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                          Jason Banned @LAH3385
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                          @LAH3385 said:

                          @Jason said:

                          @RoopanKumar said:

                          @nadnerB for your kind information we have license but he is not telling to me he is telling to find from the server installed and to give

                          Sounds like his is covering up for not properly licensed systems.

                          Or poor documentation and he doesn't have the key on him, thus the quest to dig up key from other system.

                          If you don't have the documentation then you don't own the license. You either have a volume license which you can get online, or you have the retail in which case you need the paper copy in order to use. And the key for each install is unique and limited to a very small amount of activations.

                          It could also be an OEM copy on the other server if you have no documentation (in which case a sticker would be on the server) and in no way are you allowed to use this on any server besides the one it's on.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @Jason
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                            @Jason said:

                            It could also be an OEM copy on the other server if you have no documentation (in which case a sticker would be on the server) and in no way are you allowed to use this on any server besides the one it's on.

                            Actually, this isn't entirely true - You could use the downgrade rights of a different license, and MS allows you to reuse your OEM licenses from other machines assuming you own no VL licenses/media/keys.

                            But in general, this is not a typical concern, especially on servers.

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                              Carnival Boy
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                              @Jason said:

                              If you don't have the documentation then you don't own the license.

                              Really? I'm surprised. What if it gets lost? There must be a procedure for getting it replaced. And if you can get it replaced, then you must "own the licence".

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                If you're in a part of the world that doesn't pay attention to legal licensing issues - well good luck with that, and I'm hoping these forums won't openly participate in helping you buy pass those fees.

                                There is a difference between the part of the world that looks the other way and the world where this is fully legal. Don't conflate American legality with global legality. You don't know that they ARE legal in his country.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                                  @Jason said:

                                  If you don't have the documentation then you don't own the license.

                                  Really? I'm surprised. What if it gets lost? There must be a procedure for getting it replaced. And if you can get it replaced, then you must "own the licence".

                                  Welcome to the Microsoft world. In the countries that recognize the licensing system, the paper is all that there is and customers losing it is a primary means by which MS pushes people to the VL system, O365 or, in some cases, to Linux.

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                                    Carnival Boy
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                                    Has this been proved in court? eg I can prove I have purchased the product (ie I have the invoice for it), but I have lost the paper licence. Has a court ruled that I don't own the licence and therefore that Microsoft can sue me for using unlicenced software? It all sounds very murky. I'd have thought that so long as I can reasonably prove that I purchased the software, I can prove that I own it.

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                                      Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @Jason said:

                                      It could also be an OEM copy on the other server if you have no documentation (in which case a sticker would be on the server) and in no way are you allowed to use this on any server besides the one it's on.

                                      Actually, this isn't entirely true - You could use the downgrade rights of a different license, and MS allows you to reuse your OEM licenses from other machines assuming you own no VL licenses/media/keys.

                                      But in general, this is not a typical concern, especially on servers.

                                      That's not true. You either use Downgrade rights from the OEM licesnse or from another package on them machine. You don't get to use downgrade rights from another package then transfer the OEM licesnse to another system.. It doesn't work that way. You can never transfer an OEM license.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                                        Has this been proved in court? eg I can prove I have purchased the product (ie I have the invoice for it), but I have lost the paper licence. Has a court ruled that I don't own the licence and therefore that Microsoft can sue me for using unlicenced software? It all sounds very murky. I'd have thought that so long as I can reasonably prove that I purchased the software, I can prove that I own it.

                                        Yes and no. It HAS been proven in court (I don't have a reference but I'm pretty confident.) However, the "paper" that you have to have can include the invoice. So your first question, yes. But if you can prove that you have purchased the product you should be okay.

                                        As far as I understand it, Microsoft can show that you breached agreement by not maintaining the license but cannot show any damage as you can prove that you paid for it. Basically MS can pursue you for a violation of $0... technically you are at fault, but the amount of fault is $0.

                                        The issue is when you have no paper and can't prove that you bought it.

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                                          Jason Banned @Carnival Boy
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                                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                                          Has this been proved in court? eg I can prove I have purchased the product (ie I have the invoice for it), but I have lost the paper licence. Has a court ruled that I don't own the licence and therefore that Microsoft can sue me for using unlicenced software? It all sounds very murky. I'd have thought that so long as I can reasonably prove that I purchased the software, I can prove that I own it.

                                          An Invoice doesn't prove you own it. You could have bought for someone else or bought it and transferred it to someone else.

                                          I have many invoices for things I've had to buy on my personal credit card while traveling for work. But they aren't my property they are my employers as we get reimbursed.

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                                            Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Carnival-Boy said:

                                            Has this been proved in court? eg I can prove I have purchased the product (ie I have the invoice for it), but I have lost the paper licence. Has a court ruled that I don't own the licence and therefore that Microsoft can sue me for using unlicenced software? It all sounds very murky. I'd have thought that so long as I can reasonably prove that I purchased the software, I can prove that I own it.

                                            Yes and no. It HAS been proven in court (I don't have a reference but I'm pretty confident.) However, the "paper" that you have to have can include the invoice. So your first question, yes. But if you can prove that you have purchased the product you should be okay.

                                            As far as I understand it, Microsoft can show that you breached agreement by not maintaining the license but cannot show any damage as you can prove that you paid for it. Basically MS can pursue you for a violation of $0... technically you are at fault, but the amount of fault is $0.

                                            The issue is when you have no paper and can't prove that you bought it.

                                            Meaning you still don't get to use the license you lost though, and will have to buy another.

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