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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

      @scottalanmiller said

      Simplified: Why would you run XenCenter?

      And aren't you a XC evangelist for the Windows folk? LOL.

      Scott has always recommended using XenServer or Hyper-V over ESXi due to the business model. I think his gripe with XenCenter was the limited functionality prior to it being wide open.

      But with XO there is very little need for XC any more.

      I find XC is easier to manage a VM at times, just because of how I use my system.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @olivier
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        @olivier said i

        It won't tell you anything, it will display the recommendation for each patch.

        Hey when XO displays, I listen.

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        • olivierO
          olivier @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill ahahah 😄

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @olivier
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            I guess Windows works the same way, but I've always been fearful not rebooting pretty quickly would lead to serious system problems.

            Though I am guessing that rebooting pretty quickly after applying patches that require rebooting on XS is probably prudent. Still, I could install during the day and just reboot it at night.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

              I guess Windows works the same way, but I've always been fearful not rebooting pretty quickly would lead to serious system problems.

              Though I am guessing that rebooting pretty quickly after applying patches that require rebooting on XS is probably prudent. Still, I could install during the day and just reboot it at night.

              It's not really stability issues, it's that the updates don't take effect until you reboot.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill
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                I happened to notice in XO the following...

                (xo-web 4.16.1 - xo-server 4.17.0)

                Should those be the same? I was pretty sure they were both the same the other day when I upgraded them.

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                • DanpD
                  Danp @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill No, they can vary depending on the release schedule. My production server is currently (xo-web 4.16.0 - xo-server 4.17.0)

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @Danp
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                    @Danp said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                    @BRRABill No, they can vary depending on the release schedule. My production server is currently (xo-web 4.16.0 - xo-server 4.17.0)

                    OK, I am set, then!

                    Also upgraded one server (of two) to XS7 tonight.

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                    • DanpD
                      Danp @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                      Also upgraded one server (of two) to XS7 tonight.

                      Just remember that migration from XS6 to XS7 is a one way operation.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @Danp
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                        @Danp said

                        Just remember that migration from XS6 to XS7 is a one way operation.

                        Why would one ever want to go back?

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                        • DanpD
                          Danp @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill You wouldn't downgrade from XS7 to XS6. However, with one XS6 server and one XS7 server, I could seem someone wanting to migrate a VM between servers and not be able to if the VM resides on XS7.

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                          • olivierO
                            olivier
                            last edited by olivier

                            Indeed, you can't live migrate a VM from a recent version of XS to an older one.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @olivier
                              last edited by

                              @olivier said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                              Indeed, you can't live migrate a VM from a recent version of XS to an older one.

                              But you can go the other way, thank goodness!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                @olivier said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                Indeed, you can't live migrate a VM from a recent version of XS to an older one.

                                But you can go the other way, thank goodness!

                                🙂 Would really suck if you couldn't. Nice that updating isn't too bad.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said

                                  🙂 Would really suck if you couldn't. Nice that updating isn't too bad.

                                  I was certainly happy to have XS installed on USB.

                                  I wonder what it would be like if XS is on the same disk/array as the SR.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill
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                                    Has anyone ever done an upgrade to the same version?

                                    By that, I mean, installed, say XS7 over an existing XS7 install?

                                    I am thinking of doing that to test my "clone to a bigger USB" theory.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      Another question, this one more for general knowledge.

                                      If I were to clone the current boot USB, and then try this upgrade and it bombs, can I just go back to the cloned original setup?

                                      This is the kind of stuff that I don't think you can do, but then @scottalanmiller says ... "you are thinking windows ... Linux is just .... EASY"

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                        Another question, this one more for general knowledge.

                                        If I were to clone the current boot USB, and then try this upgrade and it bombs, can I just go back to the cloned original setup?

                                        This is the kind of stuff that I don't think you can do, but then @scottalanmiller says ... "you are thinking windows ... Linux is just .... EASY"

                                        Yes you can do that. As the Boot USB is what is running the hardware, the hardware doesn't store any of the boot info.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said

                                          Yes you can do that. As the Boot USB is what is running the hardware, the hardware doesn't store any of the boot info.

                                          And none of the VM info/data is altered with an upgrade?

                                          So, in theory you could try going to 7 from 6.5, it could bomb, and you could just go back to your 6.5 USB?

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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                                            @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                            @DustinB3403 said

                                            Yes you can do that. As the Boot USB is what is running the hardware, the hardware doesn't store any of the boot info.

                                            And none of the VM info/data is altered with an upgrade?

                                            So, in theory you could try going to 7 from 6.5, it could bomb, and you could just go back to your 6.5 USB?

                                            That's the theory.

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