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    BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer

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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
      last edited by

      XS (and XO) show the provisioned size of the virtual disk. Is there a way to show how much space it is actually taking up?

      (For example in Hyper-V you could just look at the size of the VHD.)

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
        last edited by

        @BRRABill said:

        XS (and XO) show the provisioned size of the virtual disk. Is there a way to show how much space it is actually taking up?

        (For example in Hyper-V you could just look at the size of the VHD.)

        Same, you either look at the storage device and query it and/or you look at the size of the filesystem image file.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          Yep there is.
          Go to the Dashboard first

          From the dashboard find the Storage Repository (SR)
          Click on it.
          0_1458834912641_1-dash.JPG

          Now scroll down a little and you'll see your VHDs

          0_1458834962492_2-VHD size.JPG

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            I fumbled around for about 5 mins before I bumped my way into this.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              or you look at the size of the filesystem image file.

              Is that functionality available in XC or XO?

              In Hyper-V you can right click the storage and it tells you provisioned size and size on disk.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender

                But that doesn't tell you virtual drive by virtual drive. Only the main XS drive. (Which you can also see in XC.)

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by Dashrender

                  What you mean Willis? (Different Strokes reference)

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    What you mean Willis? (Different Strokes reference)

                    I guess in reality it doesn't matter. You'd be managing the drive sizes in each VM, so it would never be an issue.

                    I just like to know hey ... this virtual disk is only 10% full without going into the VM itself to check. Pretty easy to do in Hyper-V. I figured it was in XC/XO as well, but I was just missing it.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      @BRRABill said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      What you mean Willis? (Different Strokes reference)

                      I guess in reality it doesn't matter. You'd be managing the drive sizes in each VM, so it would never be an issue.

                      I just like to know hey ... this virtual disk is only 10% full without going into the VM itself to check. Pretty easy to do in Hyper-V. I figured it was in XC/XO as well, but I was just missing it.

                      Aww.. OK I gotcha now..
                      i thought there was a place to see the assigned space vs the used space - can't see to find it right now.. of course I'm guessing the VDH doesn't shrink when you delete things.. so it will only show the max size it ever was.

                      I thought you only wanted to see how large an assigned VHD was - not the actual internal usage inside the VHD... but I understand now.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        Also - @BRRABill the ability of Hyper-V Manager to show you the used storage space might only apply to Windows based VMs. That seems pretty likely.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          I thought you only wanted to see how large an assigned VHD was - not the actual internal usage inside the VHD... but I understand now.

                          I guess my thinking was that if you overprovisioned a bit, and one of your servers was going nuts, it would be nice to easily see which one it was.

                          But there should be checks on the individual servers to prevent that from happening.

                          I am assuming it can be done directly in the XS file system. Was just wondering if it was in XS/XO somewhere.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            and now I'm back to not following.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              and now I'm back to not following.

                              No, I think you are.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                here is one of my 2012R2 servers on ESXi - from here I can't tell how full the VHDs are, only the assigned size.

                                0_1458837008126_vmware1.JPG

                                I might see something different if I thin provisioned those machines, but back then I never did that, so i can't show you what that looks like.

                                I'm guessing the insite you have to Windows VHDs is the nature that it's Windows on Windows, but if it was a Linux VM, I'm guessing you wouldn't get that information.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  I'm guessing the insite you have to Windows VHDs is the nature that it's Windows on Windows, but if it was a Linux VM, I'm guessing you wouldn't get that information.

                                  Setting up a test of that as we speak. 🙂

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    I just like to know hey ... this virtual disk is only 10% full without going into the VM itself to check. Pretty easy to do in Hyper-V. I figured it was in XC/XO as well, but I was just missing it.

                                    You mean you want to know how utilized the filesystem is inside of the VM?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      I guess my thinking was that if you overprovisioned a bit, and one of your servers was going nuts, it would be nice to easily see which one it was.

                                      If you overprovision, that wouldn't be what told you. That's not the right information for that problem.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        But there should be checks on the individual servers to prevent that from happening.

                                        No, you need to either not overprovision or you need to monitor to make sure that you don't run out of space. The individual machines have no idea.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          You mean you want to know how utilized the filesystem is inside of the VM?

                                          Yes.

                                          BTW: I installed Ubuntu on my Hyper-V box, and it still shows the usage.

                                          0_1458837512588_ub-on-hv.png

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            No, you need to either not overprovision or you need to monitor to make sure that you don't run out of space. The individual machines have no idea.

                                            Right, that I understand.

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