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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said:

      Well it does make that bottle of water not free...... because you're buying the bottle....

      But the question isn't about the bottle of water, it's about water. RHEL is water, it is free. You pay for RH to bottle it and hand it to you.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        Yeah but who doesn't want a waiter when they go to a restaurant?

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        • bbigfordB
          bbigford @scottalanmiller
          last edited by bbigford

          @scottalanmiller So then why would someone want a free copy of RHEL vs. CentOS? Anything baked into RHEL that CentOS doesn't provide?

          I understand there are very minor differences, but is there a justified reason? Documentation? Why does CentOS exist if RHEL can be given away for free, without paid support? Guessing you can't get updates if RHEL isn't licensed, whereas CentOS can, because they are protected by the GPL and serviced by the community...?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @bbigford
            last edited by

            @BBigford said:

            @scottalanmiller So then why would someone want a free copy of RHEL vs. CentOS? Anything baked into RHEL that CentOS doesn't provide?

            No reason, which is why no one bothers with it. Or... that's exactly what CentOS is. Works both ways. CentOS is literally people took RHEL and gave it away for free. They are literally the same product. They are built from the same source. There is no reason whatsoever to want RHEL except that is where RH provides support. And I think you can buy support for CentOS these days.

            So either....

            • No one cares about a free RHEL because CentOS is identical to RHEL OR....
            • People do care and made CentOS and you see free RHEL every day,.
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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @bbigford
              last edited by

              @BBigford said:

              I understand there are very minor differences, but is there a justified reason? Documentation? Why does CentOS exist if RHEL can be given away for free, without paid support?

              Because you can't call it RHEL. The product is free, the name is not!!

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @bbigford
                last edited by

                @BBigford said:

                Guessing you can't get updates if RHEL isn't licensed, whereas CentOS can, because they are protected by the GPL and serviced by the community...?

                RHEL can be updated the same as CentOS, even without a license. But RH's own patch servers are only accessible to licensed users.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @BBigford said:

                  I understand there are very minor differences, but is there a justified reason? Documentation? Why does CentOS exist if RHEL can be given away for free, without paid support?

                  Because you can't call it RHEL. The product is free, the name is not!!

                  wow, there's a lot of value in a name - but really is just FUD.
                  lol

                  The support though I suppose has value.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @BBigford said:

                    I understand there are very minor differences, but is there a justified reason? Documentation? Why does CentOS exist if RHEL can be given away for free, without paid support?

                    Because you can't call it RHEL. The product is free, the name is not!!

                    wow, there's a lot of value in a name - but really is just FUD.
                    lol

                    The support though I suppose has value.

                    I wouldn't call it FUD. RH goes to rather extrordinary lengths to ensure that they are very clear that everything is free, CentOS is official and an exact copy of RHEL and that Fedora is free, too. From day one they've made such a huge deal about the GPL and everything that they do being free.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      I never deal in any of that stuff, so ill have to take your word for it.

                      I have to assume my associates who do are fully aware and are choosing to pay for the support.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        I have to assume my associates who do are fully aware and are choosing to pay for the support.

                        Well lots of people intentionally pay for support because.... they want support. Nothing wrong with that. Red Hat support is excellent (they tried to hire me!)

                        They'd have to be pretty out of touch with Linux to be Linux Admins and unaware that CentOS is RHEL and free. I mean the first time you ask "what Linux should I learn" you learn that much.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver
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                          I just wanted to comment that Oracle is selling support for RHEL, without the name, under their product Oracle Linux.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @coliver
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                            @coliver said:

                            I just wanted to comment that Oracle is selling support for RHEL, without the name, under their product Oracle Linux.

                            Good example.

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