Intel NUC Kit - The Prefect Home Lab Server?
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@scottalanmiller said:
By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!
This is a better case for a NAS
I do like the Prodigy, but yes it leaves some stuff to be desired
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112339 -
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@scottalanmiller said:
By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!
if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!
if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?
I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Can that fit a full size GPU?
Yes, with room to spare.
Nice. Thanks.
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@coliver said:
I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.
I'm not asking about software but about the chassis. How do you pull the drives out without drive trays?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.
I'm not asking about software but about the chassis. How do you pull the drives out without drive trays?
Oh, agreed it would be a pain, although the side does come off easily. I was responding to @Dashrender about not having hotswap with software RAID.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.
I'm not asking about software but about the chassis. How do you pull the drives out without drive trays?
Oh, agreed it would be a pain, although the side does come off easily. I was responding to @Dashrender about not having hotswap with software RAID.
Oh, yes the software has hot swap, no issue there. But you need a hot swap chassis or else you damage the equipment!
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@Dashrender said:
if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?
All enterprise software RAID has hot swap.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?
All enterprise software RAID has hot swap.
What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@iroal said:
The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...
I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.
This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.
The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.
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@coliver said:
What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?
Oh sure. FakeRAID for example. And some cheesy stuff from third parties.
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@gjacobse said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@iroal said:
The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...
I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.
This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.
The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.
If you just need more monitors and not heavy GPU processing, can't you just use the USB-C output?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@gjacobse said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@iroal said:
The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...
I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.
This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.
The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.
If you just need more monitors and not heavy GPU processing, can't you just use the USB-C output?
Suppose you could - with additional cables / adapters.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?
Oh sure. FakeRAID for example. And some cheesy stuff from third parties.
Are those enterprise software RAIDs?
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?
Oh sure. FakeRAID for example. And some cheesy stuff from third parties.
Are those enterprise software RAIDs?
Sorry, thought you asked what NON-enterprise ones are there
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All the OS software RAID is enterprise (Windows software RAID is the only questionable one and that's a grey area and does hot swap anyway) like MD, ZFS, BtrFS... every enterprise OS (Windows being a semi-exception) has enterprise software RAID built in and has for decades. AIX, HP-UX, Solaris (on Sparc), mainframes, etc. have no other options but software RAID.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?
Oh sure. FakeRAID for example. And some cheesy stuff from third parties.
Are those enterprise software RAIDs?
Sorry, thought you asked what NON-enterprise ones are there
Nah, you mentioned all enterprise software RAID. The only I know about is MD-RAID. Was curious what else was on the market.
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ZFS is often considered the gold standard for software RAID. Not as old as MD but has more features, like RAID 5.3/7 which no one else has and variable width striping. It's generally minor stuff, but gives it a slight edge in quality. BtrFS is expected to go toe to toe with it soon. MD is among the best.
