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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee
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      Anyone using this or something similar? http://www.printerlogic.com/eliminate-print-servers/

      What is the LANless methodology to getting rid of these print servers?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Best technique is, of course, to get rid of printing 🙂

        Google Print gets around printing as well 🙂

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          Best technique is, of course, to get rid of printing 🙂

          Google Print gets around printing as well 🙂

          No printing would be my dream.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Best technique is, of course, to get rid of printing 🙂

            Google Print gets around printing as well 🙂

            No printing would be my dream.

            I do as much as possible to keep from using them. Signing PDFs digitally, and filling out stuff with PDF editors. I can't stand printers.

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              Jason Banned @FATeknollogee
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              @FATeknollogee said:

              Anyone using this or something similar? http://www.printerlogic.com/eliminate-print-servers/

              What is the LANless methodology to getting rid of these print servers?

              Why pay for something Group Policy can already do?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                I've inquire with the powers that be if they would like a print to mobile device like option.

                The thinking is... Instead of paper. The document could just be sent to a phone or ipad/android tablet, etc. 99% of the time the look and throw away... This would avoid the waste.

                Anyone see a anything like this?

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Jason
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                  @Jason said:

                  @FATeknollogee said:

                  Anyone using this or something similar? http://www.printerlogic.com/eliminate-print-servers/

                  What is the LANless methodology to getting rid of these print servers?

                  Why pay for something Group Policy can already do?

                  If the shorter logon times is true, and the printers still quickly available, that could be worth it.

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                    Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    @Jason said:

                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    Anyone using this or something similar? http://www.printerlogic.com/eliminate-print-servers/

                    What is the LANless methodology to getting rid of these print servers?

                    Why pay for something Group Policy can already do?

                    If the shorter logon times is true, and the printers still quickly available, that could be worth it.

                    Deploying Printers with a GPO (not a script) don't really slow down login except from the first login. Printer Logic's price is VERY steep.

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                      Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      I've inquire with the powers that be if they would like a print to mobile device like option.

                      The thinking is... Instead of paper. The document could just be sent to a phone or ipad/android tablet, etc. 99% of the time the look and throw away... This would avoid the waste.

                      Anyone see a anything like this?

                      Unlikely. There's a lot to go on in the backend with something like that.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Jason
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                        @Jason said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        I've inquire with the powers that be if they would like a print to mobile device like option.

                        The thinking is... Instead of paper. The document could just be sent to a phone or ipad/android tablet, etc. 99% of the time the look and throw away... This would avoid the waste.

                        Anyone see a anything like this?

                        Unlikely. There's a lot to go on in the backend with something like that.

                        Sure there could be a lot on the backend... But I would think this would be immensely useful. Though I'm not sure how you'd do it in a LANless setup... I suppose with something like ZT it might be easier.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          I could envision this as an app loaded on the rading device.... And the printing devices would just send their print to the designated user on that app. The app would then pole a central place just like email.

                          But unlike email the user doesn't want to have to open each message... They just scroll page by page.

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                            Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            @Jason said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            I've inquire with the powers that be if they would like a print to mobile device like option.

                            The thinking is... Instead of paper. The document could just be sent to a phone or ipad/android tablet, etc. 99% of the time the look and throw away... This would avoid the waste.

                            Anyone see a anything like this?

                            Unlikely. There's a lot to go on in the backend with something like that.

                            Sure there could be a lot on the backend... But I would think this would be immensely useful. Though I'm not sure how you'd do it in a LANless setup... I suppose with something like ZT it might be easier.

                            How would ZeroTeir be involved? You'd have mobile devices with an app on it from the vendor who would make this, each user would have an account or ID to enter on both the computer and tablet to print from the computer to a viewer on the tablet. Remember Mobile devices sandbox their apps. This would require a cloud service. Would this really be worth the expense over emailing a PDF to yourself?

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              Our nursing staff is constantly asked to get records from another system for our doc to look at for 20 second before being tossed right into the shred bin.

                              This would eliminate that waste. And actually possibly allow a safer situation for the information, you're done with it.. Delete it. Could be setup for auto delete after x days, less risk of paper going missing and not being shred.

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                                Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                Our nursing staff is constantly asked to get records from another system for our doc to look at for 20 second before being tossed right into the shred bin.

                                This would eliminate that waste. And actually possibly allow a safer situation for the information, you're done with it.. Delete it. Could be setup for auto delete after x days, less risk of paper going missing and not being shred.

                                Seems like thinking about it the wrong way. If the records are already in digital form why is printing needed just because they do it now. a better solution would be a mobile app for the patient record system.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Jason
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                                  @Jason yes, because making pdfs takes several steps and that's before you open the email client.

                                  Then the doc has to open each one on email, download and open locally taking no less than two clicks and probably more.

                                  Pdfs are to cumbersome for them. Just accept this fact.

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                                    Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Pdfs are to cumbersome for them. Just accept this fact.

                                    PDFs are no more cumbersome than actual printing. There is no reason this problem even needs any kinda of printing involved. The information is digital, they want to view digitally. Why even have printing step?

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                                      Dashrender @Jason
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                                      @Jason said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Our nursing staff is constantly asked to get records from another system for our doc to look at for 20 second before being tossed right into the shred bin.

                                      This would eliminate that waste. And actually possibly allow a safer situation for the information, you're done with it.. Delete it. Could be setup for auto delete after x days, less risk of paper going missing and not being shred.

                                      Seems like thinking about it the wrong way. If the records are already in digital form why is printing needed just because they do it now. a better solution would be a mobile app for the patient record system.

                                      You'd like to think that, the info is in another system. Bit that requires digging around in that system to find it... So they pay the staff to spend mins digging instead of themselves. Then once they find it... There is no way to keep it front and center while moving onto those next task without printing or something similar.

                                      If you have an outside the box idea for that I'm all ears.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @Jason said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Our nursing staff is constantly asked to get records from another system for our doc to look at for 20 second before being tossed right into the shred bin.

                                        This would eliminate that waste. And actually possibly allow a safer situation for the information, you're done with it.. Delete it. Could be setup for auto delete after x days, less risk of paper going missing and not being shred.

                                        Seems like thinking about it the wrong way. If the records are already in digital form why is printing needed just because they do it now. a better solution would be a mobile app for the patient record system.

                                        You'd like to think that, the info is in another system. Bit that requires digging around in that system to find it... So they pay the staff to spend mins digging instead of themselves. Then once they find it... There is no way to keep it front and center while moving onto those next task without printing or something similar.

                                        If you have an outside the box idea for that I'm all ears.

                                        What I don't really get is how does physical paper do this when digital paper does not? It is that they can't resist playing Flappy Birds between office visits? If the staff get a PDF or other information up on the screen and hands it to the doctor, how is that more confusing than paper?

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                                          Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          You'd like to think that, the info is in another system. Bit that requires digging around in that system to find it... So they pay the staff to spend mins digging instead of themselves. Then once they find it... There is no way to keep it front and center while moving onto those next task without printing or something similar.

                                          So you have an issue with data presentation and organization not printing. The data is already there they just need an app to display it properly.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @Jason said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            Our nursing staff is constantly asked to get records from another system for our doc to look at for 20 second before being tossed right into the shred bin.

                                            This would eliminate that waste. And actually possibly allow a safer situation for the information, you're done with it.. Delete it. Could be setup for auto delete after x days, less risk of paper going missing and not being shred.

                                            Seems like thinking about it the wrong way. If the records are already in digital form why is printing needed just because they do it now. a better solution would be a mobile app for the patient record system.

                                            You'd like to think that, the info is in another system. Bit that requires digging around in that system to find it... So they pay the staff to spend mins digging instead of themselves. Then once they find it... There is no way to keep it front and center while moving onto those next task without printing or something similar.

                                            If you have an outside the box idea for that I'm all ears.

                                            What I don't really get is how does physical paper do this when digital paper does not? It is that they can't resist playing Flappy Birds between office visits? If the staff get a PDF or other information up on the screen and hands it to the doctor, how is that more confusing than paper?

                                            Creating a PDF steps.
                                            Click print
                                            Choose PDF printer
                                            Give name for file - assume location on network to be saved is automatic
                                            Grab iPad
                                            Find file open file
                                            Hand to doc

                                            Printing or app idea.
                                            Click print
                                            Choose ap or printer
                                            Grab ipad/paper
                                            If pad launch app otherwise skip
                                            Hand paper or pad to doc

                                            At minimum it saves the step of the employee naming the PDF.

                                            Next you'll say well just accept the default. That still means the staff have to remember that file name to find on the pad.

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