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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

        How did you check that?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Dashrender said:

          For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

          How did you check that?

          Called 911 dispatch and asked.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

            He asked if you did it for all 50 states like you are claiming I need to do for VoIP

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              @Dashrender said:

              For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

              He asked if you did it for all 50 states like you are claiming I need to do for VoIP

              lol, even if he did - I qualified my statement to my state only - I don't operate in any other state, so I don't care about them.

              and the only thing I checked was if POTS line was good enough.. not about VOIP.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Dashrender said:

                For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

                How did you check that?

                Called 911 dispatch and asked.

                If I was in a situation where I needed to investigate the requirements, I'd call that "not having checked." 911 dispatch is not the authority for that.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  and the only thing I checked was if POTS line was good enough.. not about VOIP.

                  But you didn't check with the authority, just someone random.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

                    How did you check that?

                    Called 911 dispatch and asked.

                    You call the 911 operator? They ar snot qualified to answer that question.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

                      How did you check that?

                      Called 911 dispatch and asked.

                      If I was in a situation where I needed to investigate the requirements, I'd call that "not having checked." 911 dispatch is not the authority for that.

                      who would you call? or check with?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

                        How did you check that?

                        Called 911 dispatch and asked.

                        You call the 911 operator? They ar snot qualified to answer that question.

                        Likely they didn't even understand the question.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

                          How did you check that?

                          Called 911 dispatch and asked.

                          You call the 911 operator? They ar snot qualified to answer that question.

                          OK Fine guys... but who have you all called to check on this, even just for your local areas.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

                            How did you check that?

                            Called 911 dispatch and asked.

                            If I was in a situation where I needed to investigate the requirements, I'd call that "not having checked." 911 dispatch is not the authority for that.

                            who would you call? or check with?

                            You have to check the local laws, you can't just call someone on a random phone service answering desk somewhere and ask a question about telephony legalities!

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

                              How did you check that?

                              Called 911 dispatch and asked.

                              If I was in a situation where I needed to investigate the requirements, I'd call that "not having checked." 911 dispatch is not the authority for that.

                              who would you call? or check with?

                              You have to check the local laws, you can't just call someone on a random phone service answering desk somewhere and ask a question about telephony legalities!

                              Well of course the dipshit who answer that phone passed me around like a charity basket at a basketball game before I got to someone who know what I was talking about.
                              I didn't expect the operator to know anything.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

                                How did you check that?

                                Called 911 dispatch and asked.

                                You call the 911 operator? They ar snot qualified to answer that question.

                                OK Fine guys... but who have you all called to check on this, even just for your local areas.

                                Lawyer most likely.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  For my state, as a medical facility, yes it is enough.

                                  How did you check that?

                                  Called 911 dispatch and asked.

                                  If I was in a situation where I needed to investigate the requirements, I'd call that "not having checked." 911 dispatch is not the authority for that.

                                  who would you call? or check with?

                                  You have to check the local laws, you can't just call someone on a random phone service answering desk somewhere and ask a question about telephony legalities!

                                  Well of course the dipshit who answer that phone passed me around like a charity basket at a basketball game before I got to someone who know what I was talking about.
                                  I didn't expect the operator to know anything.

                                  But you expected whoever was willing to take the call to be authoritative? Why?

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                                  • jt1001001J
                                    jt1001001
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                                    Nortel used to have a product called a Survivable Remote Gateway (SRG-50) was like a BCM that allowed for local survivability in case the CS-1000 at a main site went down. I've been out of the loop on the Nortel stuff for years now don't know if something equivalent in the Avaya world is still available? I'll ping my guys here and see what they say.
                                    I"ve done similar with an Adtran 908e. FXS port connected to fax, FXO connected to copper line and SIP connected from AdTran to PBX (Lync 2010 back in the day) over T1 MPLS. Routing in AdTran to send inbound calls on the FXO to the fax machine. If user on site called 911, we had routing set up in Lync to send the call back down the SIP trunk to the AdTran which would send the call out its FXO port to the local PSAP. Worked OK but if the office MPLS was down the SIP trunk was down and 911 no worky (well it would, would default out the default route which was a PRI at the time at the head office)

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22
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                                      To be honest I wouldn't have known either who to call in this particular circumstance. I don't know if I would have called 911 but I probably would've settle on someone else's expertise similarly. Good information across the board here. Thanks.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        FCC has some details: https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/voip-and-911-service

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                          @wirestyle22 said:

                                          To be honest I wouldn't have known either who to call in this particular circumstance. I don't know if I would have called 911 but I probably would've settle on someone else's expertise similarly. Good information across the board here. Thanks.

                                          Not knowing is fine, no one knows. It's one of those things that are like "who is in charge of that." The important thing is not calling someone random who is not responsible for knowing and has no connection to it. If you got in trouble for not doing what you needed or even if you were just audited saying "I called 911 and asked" would be no different than saying "I asked someone in the stall next to me in the restroom" - it's a totally random, non-authority with no reason to have insight or authority in this case.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @wirestyle22 said:

                                            To be honest I wouldn't have known either who to call in this particular circumstance. I don't know if I would have called 911 but I probably would've settle on someone else's expertise similarly. Good information across the board here. Thanks.

                                            Not knowing is fine, no one knows. It's one of those things that are like "who is in charge of that." The important thing is not calling someone random who is not responsible for knowing and has no connection to it. If you got in trouble for not doing what you needed or even if you were just audited saying "I called 911 and asked" would be no different than saying "I asked someone in the stall next to me in the restroom" - it's a totally random, non-authority with no reason to have insight or authority in this case.

                                            Right. Thanks for everyone's clarification.

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