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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      So first issue is... Windstream. The absolute worst ISP ever. So bad. They actually changed their name to hide their shame. They were Paetec in Rochester and were famous for being unable to get their own lines working. Drop them the moment you can. Hopefully you didn't get into any contracts with them.

      Why does Windstream have a router there? They are managing the router for you?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        What router do you have? What you need is called hairpin routing.

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        • alex.olynykA
          alex.olynyk @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller Yes they are.

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          • alex.olynykA
            alex.olynyk @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller adtran netvanta 4430

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            • alex.olynykA
              alex.olynyk @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              So first issue is... Windstream. The absolute worst ISP ever. So bad. They actually changed their name to hide their shame. They were Paetec in Rochester and were famous for being unable to get their own lines working. Drop them the moment you can. Hopefully you didn't get into any contracts with them.

              Were in a contract. The boss is trying to move to Bright House

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
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                @alex.olynyk said:

                @scottalanmiller adtran netvanta 4430

                AdTran is good, we should be able to figure this out.

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                • alex.olynykA
                  alex.olynyk @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @alex.olynyk said:

                  @scottalanmiller My boss wants one address for both internal and external

                  Why would he inject a technical opinion in that way? What if the solution is to have different addresses? What he "wants" is not a business goal, why would he "want" something like that?

                  He doesnt want to be bothered teaching anyone how to use it

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
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                    @alex.olynyk said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @alex.olynyk said:

                    @scottalanmiller My boss wants one address for both internal and external

                    Why would he inject a technical opinion in that way? What if the solution is to have different addresses? What he "wants" is not a business goal, why would he "want" something like that?

                    He doesnt want to be bothered teaching anyone how to use it

                    That's not related. What he stated as a "want" isn't the goal. The goal might be "easy to use", having one IP address may or may not solve that problem. That's the problem - it's a proximate goal, not the real goal. Getting focused on a proximate goal is a good way to get derailed and create things that don't really work for the given need.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      I'm assuming that you do not have a DMZ?

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver
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                        We mentioned previously that you need to configure ownCloud to use the hostname in those shared links. That won't help for external communication but as long as you have the DNS A record pointing to the ownCloud server you won't have an issue internally. You probably have to configure this in the apache file. What you want to do can't be done externally to the ownCloud server. Until you configure this any link you attempt to send out will always have the IP address instead of the hostname.

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                        • alex.olynykA
                          alex.olynyk @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          I'm assuming that you do not have a DMZ?

                          All internet goes through Windstream so I dont think so

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
                            last edited by

                            @alex.olynyk said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            I'm assuming that you do not have a DMZ?

                            All internet goes through Windstream so I dont think so

                            That's not relevant, a DMZ is on your side of the Internet.

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                            • alex.olynykA
                              alex.olynyk @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said:

                              We mentioned previously that you need to configure ownCloud to use the hostname in those shared links. That won't help for external communication but as long as you have the DNS A record pointing to the ownCloud server you won't have an issue internally. You probably have to configure this in the apache file. What you want to do can't be done externally to the ownCloud server. Until you configure this any link you attempt to send out will always have the IP address instead of the hostname.

                              We dont have a unified domain yet. Its all broken up

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                              • alex.olynykA
                                alex.olynyk @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @alex.olynyk said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                I'm assuming that you do not have a DMZ?

                                All internet goes through Windstream so I dont think so

                                That's not relevant, a DMZ is on your side of the Internet.

                                I have a DMZ port on the SonicWALL

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @alex.olynyk
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                                  @alex.olynyk said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  We mentioned previously that you need to configure ownCloud to use the hostname in those shared links. That won't help for external communication but as long as you have the DNS A record pointing to the ownCloud server you won't have an issue internally. You probably have to configure this in the apache file. What you want to do can't be done externally to the ownCloud server. Until you configure this any link you attempt to send out will always have the IP address instead of the hostname.

                                  We dont have a unified domain yet. Its all broken up

                                  That really doesn't matter. You can always go back and change the hostname again to whatever you end up with. From what you've written here you want a hostname in place of the IP address. Is that correct?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
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                                    @alex.olynyk said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @alex.olynyk said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    I'm assuming that you do not have a DMZ?

                                    All internet goes through Windstream so I dont think so

                                    That's not relevant, a DMZ is on your side of the Internet.

                                    I have a DMZ port on the SonicWALL

                                    There is a SonicWall? Where did this come into the conversation?

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                                    • alex.olynykA
                                      alex.olynyk @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @alex.olynyk said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @alex.olynyk said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      I'm assuming that you do not have a DMZ?

                                      All internet goes through Windstream so I dont think so

                                      That's not relevant, a DMZ is on your side of the Internet.

                                      I have a DMZ port on the SonicWALL

                                      There is a SonicWall? Where did this come into the conversation?

                                      We have a SonicWALL but it only does VPNs

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Are you trying to reference the ownCloud by IP or by hostname?

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                                        • alex.olynykA
                                          alex.olynyk @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Are you trying to reference the ownCloud by IP or by hostname?

                                          IP

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
                                            last edited by

                                            @alex.olynyk said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Are you trying to reference the ownCloud by IP or by hostname?

                                            IP

                                            Well that's your problem. You can't do that. Fix that first THEN let's work on getting things working as needed. You don't give users IP addresses, that's nuts. Your BOSS thinks this is okay? And he's so dedicated to it that he is using it as an excuse to bypass the FIREWALL?

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