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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Dashrender said:

      I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

      What's the use case for doing that, though?

      What do you mean? This is the default way windows DHCP works. After the IP lease expires, it simply goes back into the pool.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Dashrender said:

        I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

        What's the use case for doing that, though?

        He's talking about generic DHCP on a LAN.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Dashrender said:

          I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

          What's the use case for doing that, though?

          What do you mean? This is the default way windows DHCP works. After the IP lease expires, it simply goes back into the pool.

          The question is... why would you be using it in a ZT scenario? Why have DHCP for ZT addresses at all? What's the end goal?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @dafyre
            last edited by

            @dafyre said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

            What's the use case for doing that, though?

            He's talking about generic DHCP on a LAN.

            Correct - I am talking about my LAN. I'm not assigning IPs to the ZT network adapters.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              @dafyre said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

              What's the use case for doing that, though?

              He's talking about generic DHCP on a LAN.

              Correct - I am talking about my LAN. I'm not assigning IPs to the ZT network adapters.

              Oh, I guess I missed something then.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Dashrender said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Dashrender said:

                I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

                What's the use case for doing that, though?

                What do you mean? This is the default way windows DHCP works. After the IP lease expires, it simply goes back into the pool.

                The question is... why would you be using it in a ZT scenario? Why have DHCP for ZT addresses at all? What's the end goal?

                Yeah I don't, never said I did.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @dafyre said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

                  What's the use case for doing that, though?

                  He's talking about generic DHCP on a LAN.

                  Correct - I am talking about my LAN. I'm not assigning IPs to the ZT network adapters.

                  Oh, I guess I missed something then.

                  I was giving @dafyre an example of when IP's change - my LAN based DHCP will give out the same IP to another device after a leas expires.

                  What we don't know - does the ZT DHCP follow normal protocols and hand out an IP after a lease expires? or does it assign it for life?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    What we don't know - does the ZT DHCP follow normal protocols and hand out an IP after a lease expires? or does it assign it for life?

                    There is no ZT DHCP. That's where the confusion came from. ZT does not use DHCP, so there is no connection to DHCP-like behaviour. Pertino does not either.

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                      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      There is no ZT DHCP.

                      What? Then how do addresses get assigned?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                        last edited by

                        @anonymous said:

                        What? Then how do addresses get assigned?

                        Via the client. Remember that the client talks to the server. No need for something like DHCP.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @anonymous said:

                          What? Then how do addresses get assigned?

                          Via the client. Remember that the client talks to the server. No need for something like DHCP.

                          Scott is correct here. If you check a Windows system with ZT installed, and look at the ipv4 properties of the adapter, you will see that by default the IP address & DNS boxes are set to "static" but they are blank.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            Cool - OK then you can effectively say that the IP assigned on the ZT will never change 🙂

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                            • wrx7mW
                              wrx7m
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                              In terms of the gateway feature, is it Linux connector + bridged mode?

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @wrx7m
                                last edited by dafyre

                                @wrx7m said:

                                In terms of the gateway feature, is it Linux connector + bridged mode?

                                That is supposed to be the way it works, but I haven't been able to get it to work like that. 😞

                                If I want it as a "gateway", I just set it up as a router, and add static routes on the physical routers on each site.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @dafyre
                                  last edited by

                                  @dafyre said:

                                  @wrx7m said:

                                  In terms of the gateway feature, is it Linux connector + bridged mode?

                                  That is supposed to be the way it works, but I haven't been able to get it to work like that. 😞

                                  If I want it as a "gateway", I just set it up as a router, and add static routes on the physical routers on each site.

                                  that doesn't allow for ethernet level access - definitely not the same thing at all.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @dafyre said:

                                    @wrx7m said:

                                    In terms of the gateway feature, is it Linux connector + bridged mode?

                                    That is supposed to be the way it works, but I haven't been able to get it to work like that. 😞

                                    If I want it as a "gateway", I just set it up as a router, and add static routes on the physical routers on each site.

                                    that doesn't allow for ethernet level access - definitely not the same thing at all.

                                    Sadly, you are very much correct.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      That's why ZT refers to it as a bridge, not a router. It's true bridging functionality that is needed to make it work as intended.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        That's why ZT refers to it as a bridge, not a router. It's true bridging functionality that is needed to make it work as intended.

                                        That's what I thought, but @dafyre is saying he's been unable to get it to work.

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                                        • J
                                          Jason Banned @FATeknollogee
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                                          @FATeknollogee said:

                                          Type 3: Users (are contractors), they connect via VPN from overseas

                                          Seems like a bad idea. Usually employees are given VPN access from company owned devices. a VPN is too much exposure for non-company owned devices and for people who aren't full employees. I would look into some other form of access, RD Gateway with RDS or Ctirix etc for these people.

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            That's why ZT refers to it as a bridge, not a router. It's true bridging functionality that is needed to make it work as intended.

                                            That's what I thought, but @dafyre is saying he's been unable to get it to work.

                                            I have not been able to get it to work. I got a post out on their community, but haven't heard anything back yet, lol.

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