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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN
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      really i feel that you are from another planet, lol
      but i'm very happy that i keep learning new things everyday from you, i'm sure if you come here Scott, you will see that there is a huge difference in level, and people will not understand you, lol

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        really i feel that you are from another planet, lol
        but i'm very happy that i keep learning new things everyday from you, i'm sure if you come here Scott, you will see that there is a huge difference in level, and people will not understand you, lol

        Are you kidding, where I am no one has a computer. The store here using a mechanical cash drawer!!

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN
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          come on,,,

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          • IT-ADMINI
            IT-ADMIN
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            i'm just reading about MangoDB
            http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

            do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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              @IT-ADMIN said:

              come on,,,

              I am very serious.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                @IT-ADMIN said:

                i'm just reading about MangoDB
                http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

                do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

                We are recording this conversation on MongoDB 🙂 If you search for MongoDB in titles in MangoLassi, you will find that I wrote up an install guide for it last week 🙂

                MongoDB's own website is pretty decent for getting you started. However, you don't need to learn the database to use it. Many frameworks, like Meteor, use it by default and everything that you need to interact with it is built in. So you can focus on programming, instead of on designing databases.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  One thing that is interesting about MongoDB is that it is built with an JavaScript interface and its native language is JSON.

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN
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                    sometimes i say how people like you have time to even discuss in this forum, he could be hired by big companies like google or apple, and not wasting his time with people like me

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      sometimes i say how people like you have time to even discuss in this forum, he could be hired by big companies like google or apple, and not wasting his time with people like me

                      Google has an NDA on interview processes, they can't even get me to talk to them. Apple has tried, nice people, but they don't pay enough for the kind of work and location (they pushed for me in Cupertino, they wouldn't let me work from their Austin office, so their pay rate just wasn't good enough.)

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        i'm just reading about MangoDB
                        http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

                        do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

                        We are recording this conversation on MongoDB 🙂 If you search for MongoDB in titles in MangoLassi, you will find that I wrote up an install guide for it last week 🙂

                        MongoDB's own website is pretty decent for getting you started. However, you don't need to learn the database to use it. Many frameworks, like Meteor, use it by default and everything that you need to interact with it is built in. So you can focus on programming, instead of on designing databases.

                        In the event that you do try Meteor.js and your colleague doesn't like it, there is a PHP library for MongoDB as well.

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN
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                          Ok, is it possible to use MongoDB if we have a relation many to many in our data model ?? i know it is possible but is it that simple as RDBMS ???

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            Ok, is it possible to use MongoDB if we have a relation many to many in our data model ?? i know it is possible but is it that simple as RDBMS ???

                            This question doesn't even make sense. 🙂 You not be using your model, of course. The model that you have made exists solely to service a system you shouldn't be using. Just skip it.

                            No, it is far SIMPLER. Everything you have done already is unnecessary. not that it is all bad, it is good to know the data. But you are overthinking this. NoSQL makes this far easier in your case (and nearly all cases.) You are mired in the complexities of relational databases, you need to think more simply and more easily.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                              @dafyre said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              i'm just reading about MangoDB
                              http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

                              do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

                              We are recording this conversation on MongoDB 🙂 If you search for MongoDB in titles in MangoLassi, you will find that I wrote up an install guide for it last week 🙂

                              MongoDB's own website is pretty decent for getting you started. However, you don't need to learn the database to use it. Many frameworks, like Meteor, use it by default and everything that you need to interact with it is built in. So you can focus on programming, instead of on designing databases.

                              In the event that you do try Meteor.js and your colleague doesn't like it, there is a PHP library for MongoDB as well.

                              But you will likely make everything harder. It's hard to get easier than Meteor.

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                              • IT-ADMINI
                                IT-ADMIN
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                                is mongoDB opensource, right??

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                                • IT-ADMINI
                                  IT-ADMIN
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                                  in my above data model diagram, where i have many to many relationships between entities, what is the best approach: references or embedded documents ??

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    is mongoDB opensource, right??

                                    Yes, AGPL and totally free.

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                                    • IT-ADMINI
                                      IT-ADMIN
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                                      dear Scott please can you tell me what are the right steps to follow when working with document DB ?? i mean are there any models to follow in document DB similar to Merise or UML in relational DB ??

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        dear Scott please can you tell me what are the right steps to follow when working with document DB ?? i mean are there any models to follow in document DB similar to Merise or UML in relational DB ??

                                        No, I don't believe any modeling tools like that have been created yet. Although the need for them mostly does not exist.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Try this, take Word and try making a sample "document" of sample data for one or two users. That should, mostly, guide you as to what the MongoDB document will look like.

                                          Do it something like this...

                                          First Name: John
                                          Last Name: Doe
                                          SSID: 123.45.678
                                          Cell Phone: (132) 465-7896

                                          Something like that.

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                                          • IT-ADMINI
                                            IT-ADMIN
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                                            wow, how it can be arbitrary like this, no rules, no models to follow,
                                            strange 😳

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