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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN
      last edited by

      ah ok, i see what you mean,
      thanks

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
        last edited by stacksofplates

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        @coliver no dear, i already tried XenSever, it consume about 700 MB,

        Are you sure about that? How did you determine that it was using so much? I've never seen it grab that much.

        Default is 752 MiB.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
          last edited by

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          what makes apache not playing well with mysql if they are on the same server ??

          They play fine, it's you we are trying to alter.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
            last edited by

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            it takes 1 GB

            Use the free-m command, not a graphical representation. That's not the number that you think that it is.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
              last edited by

              @johnhooks said:

              Ya mine's using close to 2GB

              0_1456429832423_Screenshot 2016-02-25 at 2.50.20 PM.png

              Are you sure? I don't think that tool tell syou how much is used.

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                last edited by stacksofplates

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @johnhooks said:

                Ya mine's using close to 2GB

                0_1456429832423_Screenshot 2016-02-25 at 2.50.20 PM.png

                Are you sure? I don't think that tool tell syou how much is used.

                That's the RAM for each VM and the host. 8% is allocated for the dom0. It's not actually using that much, but that much is allocated by default, bad wording.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                  last edited by

                  @wirestyle22 said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  anyway it is another discussion about hypervisors we made it 6 months ago,

                  why it is recomended to make apache and mysql in seperate servers ??

                  because they compete heavily for physical resources and they scale at different rates

                  No, that's not an issue. Specifically the issue is the potential to write code that relies on locality.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                    last edited by

                    @johnhooks said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @johnhooks said:

                    Ya mine's using close to 2GB

                    0_1456429832423_Screenshot 2016-02-25 at 2.50.20 PM.png

                    Are you sure? I don't think that tool tell syou how much is used.

                    That's the RAM for each VM and the host. 8% is allocated for the dom0.

                    I mean, didi you run free to see what was REALLY used?

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by stacksofplates

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @johnhooks said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @johnhooks said:

                      Ya mine's using close to 2GB

                      0_1456429832423_Screenshot 2016-02-25 at 2.50.20 PM.png

                      Are you sure? I don't think that tool tell syou how much is used.

                      That's the RAM for each VM and the host. 8% is allocated for the dom0.

                      I mean, didi you run free to see what was REALLY used?

                      Used is like 702, I changed the response above.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        what makes apache not playing well with mysql if they are on the same server ??

                        They play fine, it's you we are trying to alter.

                        Q: Is this assuming he has a rather large server to expand into? The differing rates can be a big problem, no? I always looked at VM's as a means to make system resources more economical.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                          last edited by

                          @johnhooks said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @johnhooks said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @johnhooks said:

                          Ya mine's using close to 2GB

                          0_1456429832423_Screenshot 2016-02-25 at 2.50.20 PM.png

                          Are you sure? I don't think that tool tell syou how much is used.

                          That's the RAM for each VM and the host. 8% is allocated for the dom0.

                          I mean, didi you run free to see what was REALLY used?

                          Used is like 702, I changed the response above.

                          I'm not going to be confident in that number till someone shows me the real free -m output rather than something translated for me.

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @wirestyle22 said:

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            anyway it is another discussion about hypervisors we made it 6 months ago,

                            why it is recomended to make apache and mysql in seperate servers ??

                            because they compete heavily for physical resources and they scale at different rates

                            No, that's not an issue. Specifically the issue is the potential to write code that relies on locality.

                            please dear scott can you clear you point here, i'm not sure i understood you

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                              last edited by

                              @wirestyle22 said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              what makes apache not playing well with mysql if they are on the same server ??

                              They play fine, it's you we are trying to alter.

                              Q: Is this assuming he has a rather large server to expand into? The differing rates can be a big problem, no? I always looked at VM's as a means to make system resources more economical.

                              Assuming two individual VMs or one with the resources of those two.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @wirestyle22 said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                what makes apache not playing well with mysql if they are on the same server ??

                                They play fine, it's you we are trying to alter.

                                Q: Is this assuming he has a rather large server to expand into? The differing rates can be a big problem, no? I always looked at VM's as a means to make system resources more economical.

                                Assuming two individual VMs or one with the resources of those two.

                                I guess this means that you just have to calculate the growth rate and account for that. I see your point.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                  last edited by

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @wirestyle22 said:

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  anyway it is another discussion about hypervisors we made it 6 months ago,

                                  why it is recomended to make apache and mysql in seperate servers ??

                                  because they compete heavily for physical resources and they scale at different rates

                                  No, that's not an issue. Specifically the issue is the potential to write code that relies on locality.

                                  please dear scott can you clear you point here, i'm not sure i understood you

                                  Running local you can very easily get into doing things like copying database files, trying to look at file instead of properly database interfaces, trying to use local files instead of network interfaces, etc.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                    last edited by

                                    @wirestyle22 said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @wirestyle22 said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    what makes apache not playing well with mysql if they are on the same server ??

                                    They play fine, it's you we are trying to alter.

                                    Q: Is this assuming he has a rather large server to expand into? The differing rates can be a big problem, no? I always looked at VM's as a means to make system resources more economical.

                                    Assuming two individual VMs or one with the resources of those two.

                                    I guess this means that you just have to calculate the growth rate and account for that. I see your point.

                                    You have to do that anyway 🙂

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @wirestyle22 said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @wirestyle22 said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      what makes apache not playing well with mysql if they are on the same server ??

                                      They play fine, it's you we are trying to alter.

                                      Q: Is this assuming he has a rather large server to expand into? The differing rates can be a big problem, no? I always looked at VM's as a means to make system resources more economical.

                                      Assuming two individual VMs or one with the resources of those two.

                                      I guess this means that you just have to calculate the growth rate and account for that. I see your point.

                                      You have to do that anyway 🙂

                                      I realized that when you made a point without making a point. I shake my head at myself sometimes

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @wirestyle22 said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        anyway it is another discussion about hypervisors we made it 6 months ago,

                                        why it is recomended to make apache and mysql in seperate servers ??

                                        because they compete heavily for physical resources and they scale at different rates

                                        No, that's not an issue. Specifically the issue is the potential to write code that relies on locality.

                                        please dear scott can you clear you point here, i'm not sure i understood you

                                        Running local you can very easily get into doing things like copying database files, trying to look at file instead of properly database interfaces, trying to use local files instead of network interfaces, etc.

                                        By writing your code to expect the database server to be on a different server than the web interface, it makes the system more scaleable as well... Even if you are just writing this to be used internally.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @dafyre
                                          last edited by wirestyle22

                                          @dafyre said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @wirestyle22 said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          anyway it is another discussion about hypervisors we made it 6 months ago,

                                          why it is recomended to make apache and mysql in seperate servers ??

                                          because they compete heavily for physical resources and they scale at different rates

                                          No, that's not an issue. Specifically the issue is the potential to write code that relies on locality.

                                          please dear scott can you clear you point here, i'm not sure i understood you

                                          Running local you can very easily get into doing things like copying database files, trying to look at file instead of properly database interfaces, trying to use local files instead of network interfaces, etc.

                                          By writing your code to expect the database server to be on a different server than the web interface, it makes the system more scaleable as well... Even if you are just writing this to be used internally.

                                          You mean because it assumes that single system running VM's will eventually not be enough, correct?

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            Ya mine's using close to 2GB

                                            0_1456429832423_Screenshot 2016-02-25 at 2.50.20 PM.png

                                            Are you sure? I don't think that tool tell syou how much is used.

                                            That's the RAM for each VM and the host. 8% is allocated for the dom0.

                                            I mean, didi you run free to see what was REALLY used?

                                            Used is like 702, I changed the response above.

                                            I'm not going to be confident in that number till someone shows me the real free -m output rather than something translated for me.

                                            ok......

                                            0_1456430841521_Screenshot 2016-02-25 at 3.05.57 PM.png

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