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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN
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      i installed 14.04 because it is a prerequisit in the doc of that software, for this reason i insalled that

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        i installed 14.04 because it is a prerequisit in the doc of that software, for this reason i insalled that

        Of which software? I must have missed something.

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        • scottalanmillerS
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          If you are going to develop an application for internal use, you are going to put it on its own server, of course, right? So you would be starting with a VM that isn't used for any other purpose.

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            IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller ah ok, that is a good idea, because i had the intention to use the preexisting server, but now i changed my mind and just grab a new VM and do the dev on it

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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              @IT-ADMIN said:

              @scottalanmiller ah ok, that is a good idea, because i had the intention to use the preexisting server, but now i changed my mind and just grab a new VM and do the dev on it

              Yes, every task should be on a discrete server. You never want to mix things unless absolutely necessary.

              I'd start with Ubuntu 15.10 as a minimum. Ubuntu 16.04 is just a month away. And you can consider not using Ubuntu as well, but nothing wrong with Ubuntu.

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN
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                ok thanks for the advice

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN
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                  by the way is there any way to prevent users from viewing the source code of the php application ??

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    For development you might also want to have the database server separate from the application server to reduce the chance of coding in dependencies.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      by the way is there any way to prevent users from viewing the source code of the php application ??

                      How would users ever see it? You should not need to prevent it as it shouldn't even be possible.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
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                        I assume that you mean the application users. Users on the server have access to what you give them access to see.

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                        • IT-ADMINI
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                          no, i mean when someone open the web application they can right click and select inspect source code, how to prevent that ??

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                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            no, i mean when someone open the web application they can right click and select inspect source code, how to prevent that ??

                            You can't. But that's not the source of the application, that's the source of the web page. There isn't any PHP in there. You can never prevent people from seeing the source of a web page, its fundamentally not possible nor would you ever care. If you want to prevent that, there is something else wrong.

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                              i do not want employees in the company to know which framework i'm using or to see the jqeury functions ....because this will give them the chance to discuss with the managment about our job, and non tech people will talk about something they are nor aware of, they do not know how to make a simple form but they can grab words from google and start talking, i hate this (like saying hey IT Boy why are you using jqeury and not angularJS, i will say shut the fu...k up)

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                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                i do not want employees in the company to know which framework i'm using or to see the jqeury functions ...

                                Too bad, that's how the world works. My mother in law would say "suck it up, buttercup".

                                The framework can't be seen, of course, but the JavaScript and HTML will always been seen.

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                                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  i ....because this will give them the chance to discuss with the managment about our job, and non tech people will talk about something they are nor aware of, they do not know how to make a simple form but they can grab words from google and start talking, i hate this (like saying hey IT Boy why are you using jqeury and not angularJS, i will say shut the fu...k up)

                                  You have users who are ....

                                  • Non Technical
                                  • Read Code
                                  • Google random terms just to complain
                                  • Have management listen to them?

                                  If that's the case, management is out to get you and the rest doesn't matter.

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                                  • IT-ADMINI
                                    IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller that is the problem, they can see javascript function and how are you thinking and how are you coding

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                                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      @scottalanmiller that is the problem, they can see javascript function and how are you thinking and how are you coding

                                      No, they can see the resulting JavaScript created by the framework. They can't tell what you are thinking because you are not writing the JavaScript, right? It's just being output.

                                      If your users can read that much code, they could make this tool themselves. So you have some super technical users who really hate you. This is crazy situation to have to discuss.

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                                        IT-ADMIN
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                                        hhhhhh, unfortunately i use javascript and jquery too much in my pages to manage forms and button events without refreshing the page or changing the url, kind of single window, similar to desktop app

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                                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          hhhhhh, unfortunately i use javascript and jquery too much in my pages to manage forms and button events without refreshing the page or changing the url, kind of single window, similar to desktop app

                                          Well, if you do that, they are going to see your code, of course. Same with every webpage ever made. but they ONLY see your GUI code, nothing else. You are only looking at the GUI.

                                          If you were using any modern MVC framework they would see the code output by that, not by you.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
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                                            So in this case, your desire to skip the frameworks is creating the next layer of complications.

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