If LAN is legacy, what is the UN-legacy...?
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@adam.ierymenko said:
@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
Never said that ZT would not work. The issue is the endpoints on the other end.
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@adam.ierymenko said:
. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
Is that it? Is NAT traversal why you would want to run softphones over ZT instead of just connecting them directly to the internet?
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@Dashrender said:
Is that it? Is NAT traversal why you would want to run softphones over ZT instead of just connecting them directly to the internet?
No, security is the main reason. NAT traversal is easy (ish) to deal with.
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@adam.ierymenko said:
@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
How are they doing this?
I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP -
@scottalanmiller I disagree about NAT traversal being easy. It isn't too bad in, say, 90% of cases, but there's a long tail of awful edge cases and bad NATs that are terrible to deal with. We know this all too well.
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@FATeknollogee said:
@adam.ierymenko said:
@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
How are they doing this?
I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIPJust install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@adam.ierymenko said:
@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
How are they doing this?
I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIPJust install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.
How would you deal with remote handsets?
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@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@adam.ierymenko said:
@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
How are they doing this?
I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIPJust install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.
How would you deal with remote handsets?
You'd have to use a zt gateway.
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@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@adam.ierymenko said:
@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
How are they doing this?
I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIPJust install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.
How would you deal with remote handsets?
ZT goes on every node. Same as with more traditional VPN technologies. If you use OpenVPN, every handset needs OpenVPN on it, too.
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@FATeknollogee said:
@Dashrender said:
zt gateway
Can you install ZT on Yealink or Grandstream handsets?
No, you would need them behind a gateway.
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What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
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@FATeknollogee said:
What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
I looked on the ZT siteZT has mentioned them a few times. ZT supports a gateway function so that you can have a "LAN" behind a gateway without needing ZT installed to each device.
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So I downloaded VyOS and was able to install ZT on it. However I can't get it on my EdgeRouter as I have no other MIPS devices to compile on (I can't install make on the EdgeRouter) and my cross compilation skills do not exist.
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I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.
Ya, MIPS64. So from what I saw on the ZT github, processor type doesn't matter really as long as it's 32 or 64 bit, but you still need to be able to compile on it.........................Suck.
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Yup, sounds like a MIPS development board is in order!
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The EdgeMax line makes use of Debian Wheezy Not sure what version. Haven't followed that in a while.
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@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.
Ya, MIPS64. So from what I saw on the ZT github, processor type doesn't matter really as long as it's 32 or 64 bit, but you still need to be able to compile on it.........................Suck.
You can't cross compile for it? I did that all the time way back when. Engineers requested some open source stuff for IRIX, so I made it happen.
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Can't believe that this did not get linked post MangoCon but here is the presentation.
