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    Roger Grimes on Why You Do Not Need to Worry About RFID Blocking Wallets

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said:

      @DustinB3403 said:

      @JaredBusch there is a battery in the units that the customer takes with them in the car?

      I've never seen where those units come apart to provide a new battery.

      They don't. You have to replace them.

      How long do they last? I feel like ours is over a decade.

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      • coliverC
        coliver @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @JaredBusch said:

        @DustinB3403 said:

        @JaredBusch there is a battery in the units that the customer takes with them in the car?

        I've never seen where those units come apart to provide a new battery.

        They don't. You have to replace them.

        How long do they last? I feel like ours is over a decade.

        Mine lasted for 8 years and then I got an email that they were sending out a replacement and I need to return the old one. Performance has been steadily degrading on mine for the past 6-8 months, to the point where I would have to inch through the EZ-Pass lane for it to read. Makes sense that it is a battery then.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @JaredBusch said:

          @DustinB3403 said:

          @JaredBusch there is a battery in the units that the customer takes with them in the car?

          I've never seen where those units come apart to provide a new battery.

          They don't. You have to replace them.

          How long do they last? I feel like ours is over a decade.

          It varies based on manufacturer and usage. The unit is normally passive. The battery is not always used. The battery is only needed to provide a strong enough signal in response to the pulse.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @JaredBusch said:

            @DustinB3403 said:

            @JaredBusch there is a battery in the units that the customer takes with them in the car?

            I've never seen where those units come apart to provide a new battery.

            They don't. You have to replace them.

            How long do they last? I feel like ours is over a decade.

            Yeah - years .. I have no idea how many. I have one for my yearly trips to Chicago. It's at least 5 years old now. I expect to have to replace it at any random time in the future now.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @JaredBusch said:

              @DustinB3403 said:

              @JaredBusch there is a battery in the units that the customer takes with them in the car?

              I've never seen where those units come apart to provide a new battery.

              They don't. You have to replace them.

              How long do they last? I feel like ours is over a decade.

              It varies based on manufacturer and usage. The unit is normally passive. The battery is not always used. The battery is only needed to provide a strong enough signal in response to the pulse.

              This is how car fobs work.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                I am pretty confident that we bought ours in PA in 2006 when I was commuting to and from NJ while living in NY (PA was in the middle, you see.) So exactly a decade now. We still use it. It has been out in the car in the Texas heat for the last six years.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @JaredBusch said:

                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  @JaredBusch there is a battery in the units that the customer takes with them in the car?

                  I've never seen where those units come apart to provide a new battery.

                  They don't. You have to replace them.

                  How long do they last? I feel like ours is over a decade.

                  Yeah - years .. I have no idea how many. I have one for my yearly trips to Chicago. It's at least 5 years old now. I expect to have to replace it at any random time in the future now.

                  Illinois uses I-Pass and is a separate network than EZPass but the units are compatible.

                  I-Pass units have an expiration date clearly printed on the units themselves for this reason.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    @JaredBusch there is a battery in the units that the customer takes with them in the car?

                    I've never seen where those units come apart to provide a new battery.

                    They don't. You have to replace them.

                    How long do they last? I feel like ours is over a decade.

                    Yeah - years .. I have no idea how many. I have one for my yearly trips to Chicago. It's at least 5 years old now. I expect to have to replace it at any random time in the future now.

                    Illinois uses I-Pass and is a separate network than EZPass but the units are compatible.

                    I-Pass units have an expiration date clearly printed on the units themselves for this reason.

                    good to know - do you get an new unit for free by swapping, or do you have to pay for it again?

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      @DustinB3403 said:

                      @JaredBusch there is a battery in the units that the customer takes with them in the car?

                      I've never seen where those units come apart to provide a new battery.

                      They don't. You have to replace them.

                      How long do they last? I feel like ours is over a decade.

                      Yeah - years .. I have no idea how many. I have one for my yearly trips to Chicago. It's at least 5 years old now. I expect to have to replace it at any random time in the future now.

                      Illinois uses I-Pass and is a separate network than EZPass but the units are compatible.

                      I-Pass units have an expiration date clearly printed on the units themselves for this reason.

                      good to know - do you get an new unit for free by swapping, or do you have to pay for it again?

                      They send you a letter telling you to swap it out for free.

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                      • PSX_DefectorP
                        PSX_Defector @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        @JaredBusch there is a battery in the units that the customer takes with them in the car?

                        I've never seen where those units come apart to provide a new battery.

                        They don't. You have to replace them.

                        How long do they last? I feel like ours is over a decade.

                        Yeah - years .. I have no idea how many. I have one for my yearly trips to Chicago. It's at least 5 years old now. I expect to have to replace it at any random time in the future now.

                        Illinois uses I-Pass and is a separate network than EZPass but the units are compatible.

                        I-Pass units have an expiration date clearly printed on the units themselves for this reason.

                        I have the same tag from NTTA for the past 19 years, usually goes into the car that I have first. If I buy a second car or third, I get a new one which is a passive device and essentially just a sticker.

                        Our tags have always been passive. My original tag is kind of beefy, but it doesn't have a battery. They also used to have a license plate frame for some cars with some window coating, mostly GM 90's models like their minivans and full size cars, so they are very much passive. So a tag shouldn't need any battery, just that someone picked a loser of a technology. When I used to go back and forth to Chicago a while ago, I forgot how bad the Illinois Tollway was behind compared to the NTTA. Wasn't it around 2004 they even offered any kind of electronic toll collection?

                        A nice article about how our system works:

                        http://tollroadsnews.com/news/texas-turnpike-now-ntta-recognized-as-pioneer-in-transponder-tolling-history

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @PSX_Defector
                          last edited by

                          @PSX_Defector said:

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          @JaredBusch there is a battery in the units that the customer takes with them in the car?

                          I've never seen where those units come apart to provide a new battery.

                          They don't. You have to replace them.

                          How long do they last? I feel like ours is over a decade.

                          Yeah - years .. I have no idea how many. I have one for my yearly trips to Chicago. It's at least 5 years old now. I expect to have to replace it at any random time in the future now.

                          Illinois uses I-Pass and is a separate network than EZPass but the units are compatible.

                          I-Pass units have an expiration date clearly printed on the units themselves for this reason.

                          I have the same tag from NTTA for the past 19 years, usually goes into the car that I have first. If I buy a second car or third, I get a new one which is a passive device and essentially just a sticker.

                          Our tags have always been passive. My original tag is kind of beefy, but it doesn't have a battery. They also used to have a license plate frame for some cars with some window coating, mostly GM 90's models like their minivans and full size cars, so they are very much passive. So a tag shouldn't need any battery, just that someone picked a loser of a technology. When I used to go back and forth to Chicago a while ago, I forgot how bad the Illinois Tollway was behind compared to the NTTA. Wasn't it around 2004 they even offered any kind of electronic toll collection?

                          A nice article about how our system works:

                          http://tollroadsnews.com/news/texas-turnpike-now-ntta-recognized-as-pioneer-in-transponder-tolling-history

                          I have that one too. I hate NTTA but their tags work great. Definitely no battery and works from really far away. Even at really high speeds. I think I've used it at 90mph.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates
                            last edited by

                            I didn't realize EZ-Pass had a battery. I had one through the paving company for a few years so I just assumed they were passive.

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                            • brianlittlejohnB
                              brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @PSX_Defector said:

                              @JaredBusch said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @JaredBusch said:

                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              @JaredBusch there is a battery in the units that the customer takes with them in the car?

                              I've never seen where those units come apart to provide a new battery.

                              They don't. You have to replace them.

                              How long do they last? I feel like ours is over a decade.

                              Yeah - years .. I have no idea how many. I have one for my yearly trips to Chicago. It's at least 5 years old now. I expect to have to replace it at any random time in the future now.

                              Illinois uses I-Pass and is a separate network than EZPass but the units are compatible.

                              I-Pass units have an expiration date clearly printed on the units themselves for this reason.

                              I have the same tag from NTTA for the past 19 years, usually goes into the car that I have first. If I buy a second car or third, I get a new one which is a passive device and essentially just a sticker.

                              Our tags have always been passive. My original tag is kind of beefy, but it doesn't have a battery. They also used to have a license plate frame for some cars with some window coating, mostly GM 90's models like their minivans and full size cars, so they are very much passive. So a tag shouldn't need any battery, just that someone picked a loser of a technology. When I used to go back and forth to Chicago a while ago, I forgot how bad the Illinois Tollway was behind compared to the NTTA. Wasn't it around 2004 they even offered any kind of electronic toll collection?

                              A nice article about how our system works:

                              http://tollroadsnews.com/news/texas-turnpike-now-ntta-recognized-as-pioneer-in-transponder-tolling-history

                              I have that one too. I hate NTTA but their tags work great. Definitely no battery and works from really far away. Even at really high speeds. I think I've used it at 90mph.

                              I don't know what they are doing in other parts of the country, but I do like the fact that now if you don't have a tag, they take a picture of the license plate and mail you a bill.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                that part is nice. What sucks is that it is only part of Texas. So you get used to that, come to Houston and the roads are "tag only"... surprise!

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @brianlittlejohn
                                  last edited by stacksofplates

                                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @PSX_Defector said:

                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  @JaredBusch there is a battery in the units that the customer takes with them in the car?

                                  I've never seen where those units come apart to provide a new battery.

                                  They don't. You have to replace them.

                                  How long do they last? I feel like ours is over a decade.

                                  Yeah - years .. I have no idea how many. I have one for my yearly trips to Chicago. It's at least 5 years old now. I expect to have to replace it at any random time in the future now.

                                  Illinois uses I-Pass and is a separate network than EZPass but the units are compatible.

                                  I-Pass units have an expiration date clearly printed on the units themselves for this reason.

                                  I have the same tag from NTTA for the past 19 years, usually goes into the car that I have first. If I buy a second car or third, I get a new one which is a passive device and essentially just a sticker.

                                  Our tags have always been passive. My original tag is kind of beefy, but it doesn't have a battery. They also used to have a license plate frame for some cars with some window coating, mostly GM 90's models like their minivans and full size cars, so they are very much passive. So a tag shouldn't need any battery, just that someone picked a loser of a technology. When I used to go back and forth to Chicago a while ago, I forgot how bad the Illinois Tollway was behind compared to the NTTA. Wasn't it around 2004 they even offered any kind of electronic toll collection?

                                  A nice article about how our system works:

                                  http://tollroadsnews.com/news/texas-turnpike-now-ntta-recognized-as-pioneer-in-transponder-tolling-history

                                  I have that one too. I hate NTTA but their tags work great. Definitely no battery and works from really far away. Even at really high speeds. I think I've used it at 90mph.

                                  I don't know what they are doing in other parts of the country, but I do like the fact that now if you don't have a tag, they take a picture of the license plate and mail you a bill.

                                  They do that around here too, we had some people on bikes that would lay down and cover the plate with their feet as they went through. There were a few semis also who had a rope attached to the plate and would pull it back so the camera couldn't see it.

                                  I just remember seeing something on the news about it.

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                                  • brianlittlejohnB
                                    brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    that part is nice. What sucks is that it is only part of Texas. So you get used to that, come to Houston and the roads are "tag only"... surprise!

                                    Yea, for the most part it is only the newer toll roads... But I think they've turned all of them in Dallas that way.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
                                      last edited by

                                      @brianlittlejohn said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      that part is nice. What sucks is that it is only part of Texas. So you get used to that, come to Houston and the roads are "tag only"... surprise!

                                      Yea, for the most part it is only the newer toll roads... But I think they've turned all of them in Dallas that way.

                                      into toll only, no cash and no license? Last I was in Dallas they used the plates and since my house sits on the Bush I used them a lot.

                                      It's the brand new ones in Houston that are bad. Even my Houston family that drives there every day has no idea how to use the roads.

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                                        JaredBusch
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