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      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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        @anonymous weird, have never seen that. I suppose that is because NTG does business in the state. ML does not.

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          And your point is? That is NTG...... Not GroveSocial......

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            scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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            @Minion-Queen said:

            And your point is? That is NTG...... Not GroveSocial......

            his point was that I said that NTG would not show up in NY either, but it does as a foreign company.

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                Grovesocial/Mangolassi are also not corporations.

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                  That would make a difference, too. NTG is a full Delaware Class C.

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                    Just did the first post with all large images uploaded to RS instead of IG. Wow is it fast!

                    http://mangolassi.it/topic/7714/testing-elastix-4-rc3-on-the-scale-hc3

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                          scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                          @anonymous said:

                          @scottalanmiller And I bet it works better globally as well.

                          That's the idea, Akamai has the best global CDN in the business. RS and MS both use them, for example. They've been the CDN leader since the idea first started, I believe. I'm excited to be on them, just hope we can get code working to make it all easy and transparent. But being on CF has always been the long term goal, just pushing it faster now.

                          In theory, faster image resolution means better SEO rankings as well, we hope.

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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            I'm excited to be on them, just hope we can get code working to make it all easy and transparent.

                            The best thing to do would be to grab the imgur plugin and fork it for another service.

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                              @JaredBusch said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              I'm excited to be on them, just hope we can get code working to make it all easy and transparent.

                              The best thing to do would be to grab the imgur plugin and fork it for another service.

                              Already doing that 🙂 I've got the code from the old CF project too. Hoping that as I got through it that it is pretty obvious what needs to be done. I'll get it up on Github, too. I'm sure lots of people would like to see this working.

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                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @anonymous said:

                                All I am requesting it that we don't use images from other sites, as we are using there bandwidth, and that's not fair or the right thing to do.

                                I don't agree that it isn't fair or right, however I agree and have relayed to Danielle that there is an important perception there regardless and that for that reason, and for control of content and performance, working hard to get everything that we use reasonably over to Cloud Files where we get the best performance, insight and control for the long term. So we are working towards what I believe to be what you want.

                                Interesting that you don't see the use of someone else's resources as inherently (bad seems like to strong a word here). Costing someone else money while they gain nothing from that expense just seems wrong.

                                At least with Youtube embedded links, Youtube still shows ads and therefore they get revenue from the view.

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                                  Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Interesting that you don't see the use of someone else's resources as inherently (bad seems like to strong a word here). Costing someone else money while they gain nothing from that expense just seems wrong.

                                  At least with Youtube embedded links, Youtube still shows ads and therefore they get revenue from the view.

                                  Youtube was designed for embededing as well. Those images were meant to be viewed as their whole creation (the website design) the way the content creator intended. Just using one part of it rips it out of the context it was meant to be viewed in.

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                                    Dashrender @Jason
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                                    @Jason said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Interesting that you don't see the use of someone else's resources as inherently (bad seems like to strong a word here). Costing someone else money while they gain nothing from that expense just seems wrong.

                                    At least with Youtube embedded links, Youtube still shows ads and therefore they get revenue from the view.

                                    Youtube was designed for embededing as well. Those images were meant to be viewed as their whole creation (the website design) the way the content creator intended. Just using one part of it rips it out of the context it was meant to be viewed in.

                                    You lost me there. In the first sentence I completely agree - Youtube designed the videos to play embedded through nearly any website - their whole message would remain intact.

                                    Clearly that is not the case with most static images. The images usually enhance something else that is on that page.

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                                      What is hotlinking?

                                      Since ML hosts nothing, there isn't really a thing to pull from the ML site. Sure anyone can link to a thread, maybe even a single post (can they?), but most web browsers won't download that text (it probably wouldn't display as desired inside someone else's site anyway.

                                      Instead, those links would lead the clicker to the linked website, giving said website a full opportunity to give the viewer the whole picture.

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                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Interesting that you don't see the use of someone else's resources as inherently (bad seems like to strong a word here). Costing someone else money while they gain nothing from that expense just seems wrong.

                                        Stating it that way makes it sound bad, the implication being that it is "against their will or knowledge", which is not true. If you share something publicly, do you feel that is "bad" that someone takes you up on it?

                                        Think of all of the websites that you visit without advertising (ML for almost two years, most blogs, Snapchap, all kinds of things)... do you feel it is wrong to use them even though someone put in the effort to set them up for the express purpose of being used?

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                                          scottalanmiller @Jason
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                                          @Jason said:

                                          Youtube was designed for embededing as well. Those images were meant to be viewed as their whole creation (the website design) the way the content creator intended. Just using one part of it rips it out of the context it was meant to be viewed in.

                                          That can be true, but many sites don't even have that context. Some are nothing but images. That there is a context, that they are meant to be viewed that way or whatever is not universal. If they want to limit them to a specific context, they are able to do so.

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                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            Clearly that is not the case with most static images. The images usually enhance something else that is on that page.

                                            Usually, yes, that's true. What's important is... not always.

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