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    • coliverC
      coliver @scottalanmiller
      last edited by coliver

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @coliver said:

      @johnhooks said:

      @coliver said:

      @johnhooks said:

      @anonymous said:

      @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

      The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

      I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

      From what I've understood firewalld uses iptables, just makes it easier to manage. Kind of like ufw on Ubuntu.

      It seems like they are two different applications but there isn't much info about it on the Fedora wiki.

      https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD?rd=FirewallD/#Dynamic_firewall_with_FirewallD

      http://www.firewalld.org/

      If you look at the project itself, they self describe as a management tool, not as a firewall.

      That's what I was looking for. Thanks.

      Ok right from their main page - apparently my Google Fu isn't very good today:

      Support for iptables, ip6tables, ebtables firewall backends

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        Alex Sage @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said:

        no, it is not installed at all see my above screen shot..

        He is talking about iptables...

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
          last edited by

          And it is there in the minimal from DVD ISO.. So that is bad on CentOS for not having minimal be the same.

          https://i.imgur.com/WjxQaYT.jpg

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            Alex Sage @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch Can you see what else is missing?

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              Alex Sage
              last edited by

              Need to know if I need to rebuild all my servers 😞

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                Alex Sage
                last edited by

                So I guess the lesson I learned is always use the full DVD???

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @anonymous said:

                  @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

                  Ah, it is installed but not running.

                  no, it is not installed at all see my above screen shot..

                  The firewall (iptables) is installed according to @anonymous screen shot. And on a new build from an hour ago that I am testing. But firewalld (the management tool) is not. But iptables won't start, which is the bigger problem. It looks like no scripts for starting it are installed.

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @Alex Sage
                    last edited by

                    @anonymous said:

                    So I guess the lesson I learned is always use the full DVD???

                    Or at least be really sure of whats on each version

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                      Alex Sage @MattSpeller
                      last edited by Alex Sage

                      @MattSpeller a minimal install should be minimal install regardless of media used.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                        last edited by

                        @anonymous said:

                        @MattSpeller Minimal should be Minimal regardless of media used.

                        Should definitely be the same.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @anonymous said:

                          @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

                          Ah, it is installed but not running.

                          no, it is not installed at all see my above screen shot..

                          and wow that post keeps moving down..

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            The current status is that a default minimal install leaves the system exposed. My only guess is that they decided that with the move to a new management interface that they decided that people needed to choose which to install before moving forward no matter what?

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                            • MattSpellerM
                              MattSpeller @Alex Sage
                              last edited by

                              @anonymous said:

                              @MattSpeller a minimal install should be minimal install regardless of media used.

                              Ah I didn't understand that was the issue, thought you were doing full install from full media

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @anonymous said:

                                @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

                                Ah, it is installed but not running.

                                no, it is not installed at all see my above screen shot..

                                and wow that post keeps moving down..

                                Yeah, I htought that you were posting it over and over. Then I realized it just woudn't leave teh bottom . Very odd.

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                                  Alex Sage
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                                  Should we contact someone about this? Does anyone care? It seems like a huge security problem to me, but I tend to over react 🙂

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                                    last edited by

                                    @anonymous said:

                                    Need to know if I need to rebuild all my servers 😞

                                    Just install the firewalld component, I would assume.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @anonymous said:

                                      @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

                                      Ah, it is installed but not running.

                                      no, it is not installed at all see my above screen shot..

                                      and wow that post keeps moving down..

                                      Yeah, I htought that you were posting it over and over. Then I realized it just woudn't leave teh bottom . Very odd.

                                      did an F5 and it stopped doing that.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @anonymous said:

                                        @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

                                        Ah, it is installed but not running.

                                        no, it is not installed at all see my above screen shot..

                                        and wow that post keeps moving down..

                                        Yeah, I htought that you were posting it over and over. Then I realized it just woudn't leave teh bottom . Very odd.

                                        did an F5 and it stopped doing that.

                                        Yeah, same here. Very weird that we both got the same glitch and it appeared to be on the client side!

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @anonymous said:

                                          @JaredBusch Do you know of anyway to compare the two installs to see what packages are different? It would be interesting to know.

                                          rpm -ql >> list

                                          On each box. The do a diff on the two lists.

                                          [root@testcos7 ~]# rpm -ql
                                          rpm: no arguments given for query
                                          
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                                            Alex Sage @MattSpeller
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                                            @MattSpeller I was doing a minimal install from the minimal install media. Regardless, you should get the same result if you do a minimal install from the DVD media. You do not, and this makes me a sad panda.

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