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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @Alex Sage
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      @anonymous said:

      @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

      The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

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      • coliverC
        coliver @stacksofplates
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        @johnhooks said:

        @anonymous said:

        @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

        The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

        I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

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          Alex Sage @coliver
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          @coliver said:

          @johnhooks said:

          @anonymous said:

          @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

          The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

          I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

          I did too....

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said:

            @johnhooks said:

            @anonymous said:

            @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

            The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

            I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

            From what I've understood firewalld uses iptables, just makes it easier to manage. Kind of like ufw on Ubuntu.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @stacksofplates
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              @johnhooks said:

              @coliver said:

              @johnhooks said:

              @anonymous said:

              @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

              The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

              I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

              From what I've understood firewalld uses iptables, just makes it easier to manage. Kind of like ufw on Ubuntu.

              It seems like they are two different applications but there isn't much info about it on the Fedora wiki.

              https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD?rd=FirewallD/#Dynamic_firewall_with_FirewallD

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                @anonymous said:

                I thought CentOS7 was using firewalld, not iptables?

                I've been out getting groceries but... firewalld uses iptables, doesn't replace it. Whenever I see firewalld, iptables is still there.

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                  Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by Alex Sage

                  @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                    @anonymous said:

                    @JaredBusch Do you know of anyway to compare the two installs to see what packages are different? It would be interesting to know.

                    rpm -ql >> list

                    On each box. The do a diff on the two lists.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                      @anonymous said:

                      @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

                      Ah, it is installed but not running.

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                        Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller Right, so basically your whole box is exposed right?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said:

                          @johnhooks said:

                          @coliver said:

                          @johnhooks said:

                          @anonymous said:

                          @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

                          The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

                          I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

                          From what I've understood firewalld uses iptables, just makes it easier to manage. Kind of like ufw on Ubuntu.

                          It seems like they are two different applications but there isn't much info about it on the Fedora wiki.

                          https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD?rd=FirewallD/#Dynamic_firewall_with_FirewallD

                          http://www.firewalld.org/

                          If you look at the project itself, they self describe as a management tool, not as a firewall.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @anonymous said:

                            @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

                            Ah, it is installed but not running.

                            no, it is not installed at all see my above screen shot..

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by coliver

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @johnhooks said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @johnhooks said:

                              @anonymous said:

                              @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

                              The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

                              I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

                              From what I've understood firewalld uses iptables, just makes it easier to manage. Kind of like ufw on Ubuntu.

                              It seems like they are two different applications but there isn't much info about it on the Fedora wiki.

                              https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD?rd=FirewallD/#Dynamic_firewall_with_FirewallD

                              http://www.firewalld.org/

                              If you look at the project itself, they self describe as a management tool, not as a firewall.

                              That's what I was looking for. Thanks.

                              Ok right from their main page - apparently my Google Fu isn't very good today:

                              Support for iptables, ip6tables, ebtables firewall backends

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                                Alex Sage @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said:

                                no, it is not installed at all see my above screen shot..

                                He is talking about iptables...

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  And it is there in the minimal from DVD ISO.. So that is bad on CentOS for not having minimal be the same.

                                  https://i.imgur.com/WjxQaYT.jpg

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                                    Alex Sage @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch Can you see what else is missing?

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                                      Alex Sage
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                                      Need to know if I need to rebuild all my servers 😞

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                                        Alex Sage
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                                        So I guess the lesson I learned is always use the full DVD???

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @anonymous said:

                                          @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

                                          Ah, it is installed but not running.

                                          no, it is not installed at all see my above screen shot..

                                          The firewall (iptables) is installed according to @anonymous screen shot. And on a new build from an hour ago that I am testing. But firewalld (the management tool) is not. But iptables won't start, which is the bigger problem. It looks like no scripts for starting it are installed.

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                                          • MattSpellerM
                                            MattSpeller @Alex Sage
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                                            @anonymous said:

                                            So I guess the lesson I learned is always use the full DVD???

                                            Or at least be really sure of whats on each version

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