ML
    • Recent
    • Categories
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    XenServer Backup

    IT Discussion
    9
    185
    75.2k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • olivierO
      olivier @stacksofplates
      last edited by

      @johnhooks It stays until the next backup: then it's removed and replaced just after by a new delta snapshot. That's because a delta is always created by making a difference between 2 references (the current VM disk and a snapshot).

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        So @olivier is my system not working correctly then?

        I have no Snapshots of the VM I've been testing the Delta functionality with, nor do I have any additional vdisk.

        olivierO 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • olivierO
          olivier @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 Hmm. You should have a VDI snapshot somewhere in your SR view (that's not visible inside the VM view, only on the SR one)

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates
            last edited by

            I just ran a test Delta Backup and here's the disk

            0_1452537816861_Screenshot 2016-01-11 at 1.42.29 PM.png

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              You mean in the target repository correct?

              Which I have 0_1452537852062_XenCenter_2016-01-11_13-44-04.png

              So I do have a VDI in there, but nothing shows within XC.

              Which is what I thought you meant (and @johnhooks)

              olivierO 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • olivierO
                olivier @DustinB3403
                last edited by olivier

                @DustinB3403 No inside the SR (the XenServer SR)

                edit: the SR where reside your VM disks

                DustinB3403D 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates
                  last edited by

                  Under the main view for the actual hypervisor in XO, if you look at the storage section and then click on the repository that holds the VHDs. It will list all of the drives. They should be in there.

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @olivier
                    last edited by

                    @olivier OK yeah I do have those.

                    olivierO 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • olivierO
                      olivier @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 So everything is fine 🙂

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates
                        last edited by

                        Here's another question, since they are deltas, are they thin provisioned or is it a full copy of the VM. For example, a 300GB file server disk, is the XO_DELTA... drive a full 300GB like it says or only the changed amount?

                        olivierO 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          Now if only @olivier would stop hiding all of the critical information we'd all be better off!

                          😛 😄

                          😉

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • olivierO
                            olivier @stacksofplates
                            last edited by

                            @johnhooks Depends of your XenServer SR type, not related to XO.

                            • LVMoiSCSI: thick provisioned (not for Dundee IIRC)
                            • NFS: thin pro
                            • Local LVM SR: thick pro
                            stacksofplatesS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @olivier
                              last edited by

                              @olivier said:

                              @johnhooks Depends of your XenServer SR type, not related to XO.

                              • LVMoiSCSI: thick provisioned (not for Dundee IIRC)
                              • NFS: thin pro
                              • Local LVM SR: thick pro

                              Ok so it could potentially be the full size. I just wondered because if you don't have a ton of space you would need to make sure you have enough for the backups to keep those delta drives.

                              Like if you've got 400GB of space and have a 300GB VM that's nearly full, you might not be able to do the delta backup since it needs to keep that extra 300GB drive. Does that sound correct?

                              olivierO 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • olivierO
                                olivier @stacksofplates
                                last edited by

                                @johnhooks Sadly yes. That's the usual problem with thick pro storage. That's why NFS is always a good idea for shared SR.

                                I have to make some test to check how Dundee behave now with Local LVM and LVMoiSCSI.

                                stacksofplatesS scottalanmillerS 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @olivier
                                  last edited by

                                  @olivier said:

                                  @johnhooks Sadly yes. That's the usual problem with thick pro storage. That's why NFS is always a good idea for shared SR.

                                  I have to make some test to check how Dundee behave now with Local LVM and LVMoiSCSI.

                                  Ok, I just wanted to make sure. Thanks again!!

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • olivierO
                                    olivier
                                    last edited by

                                    You are welcome. Now it's more calm here, just take a preview (draft article, not published yet) about what's coming very soon: https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/p/82d8aaf1-84be-4a81-ab3a-10891bf7d1bb/

                                    stacksofplatesS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 4
                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @olivier
                                      last edited by

                                      @olivier said:

                                      You are welcome. Now it's more calm here, just take a preview (draft article, not published yet) about what's coming very soon: https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/p/82d8aaf1-84be-4a81-ab3a-10891bf7d1bb/

                                      That's awesome!!

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @olivier
                                        last edited by

                                        @olivier said:

                                        @johnhooks Sadly yes. That's the usual problem with thick pro storage. That's why NFS is always a good idea for shared SR.

                                        Even VMware recommends NFS when it is available.

                                        DustinB3403D 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller But wouldn't that effectively build an IPOD?

                                          Even if you have the best possible NFS solution (in reality)?

                                          scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said:

                                            @scottalanmiller But wouldn't that effectively build an IPOD?

                                            Even if you have the best possible NFS solution (in reality)?

                                            No, NFS is no more or less unable to be "unIPODed" than any other connection technology. You just build highly reliable storage. We did NFS on SAM-SD HA for a major medical group in Texas over like 30 miles. NFS can be clustered just like anything else.

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 6
                                            • 7
                                            • 8
                                            • 9
                                            • 10
                                            • 9 / 10
                                            • First post
                                              Last post