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    Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      Directly from the Hypervisor's crontab job

      Or the cli to do it directly.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        Directly from the Hypervisor's crontab job

        Or the cli to do it directly.

        You can get to the CLI from the VM the same as from wherever you are getting to it from.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @DustinB3403 said:

          Directly from the Hypervisor's crontab job

          Or the cli to do it directly.

          You can get to the CLI from the VM the same as from wherever you are getting to it from.

          Putty and XC.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @DustinB3403 said:

            Directly from the Hypervisor's crontab job

            Or the cli to do it directly.

            You can get to the CLI from the VM the same as from wherever you are getting to it from.

            Putty and XC.

            So SSH.

            The script can use SSH just like Putty can.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
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              is there any reason that this whole script couldn't be run from the XC server itself? Everything done over SSH, etc?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @Dashrender do you mean run XO from Xen directly?

                Rather than in it's own VM?

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  @Dashrender do you mean run XO from Xen directly?

                  Rather than in it's own VM?

                  No, run the scripts that update XO, and kick off the backup/snap/etc of XO from XC/Xen directly.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    @Dashrender do you mean run XO from Xen directly?

                    Rather than in it's own VM?

                    No, run the scripts that update XO, and kick off the backup/snap/etc of XO from XC/Xen directly.

                    But why?

                    You can run a scheduled backup from within XO to backup your XO VM on any schedule you set. Once that completes run the xo-update.sh script and confirm all is functional.

                    This would also allow you to take advantage of the Continuous delta capabilities. Rather than having to build a full every time you want to update.

                    It would be much easier to set a backup to run weekly for just the XO VM, stop the services, run the update, reboot XO VM, and restart the services.

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                    • DanpD
                      Danp
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                      You could use xo-cli to make the backup or create a snapshot.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        Just so everyone is aware, this installation runs from an Active SSH Connection.

                        I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to run at boot, without needing an Active Connection.

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          Just so everyone is aware, this installation runs from an Active SSH Connection.

                          I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to run at boot, without needing an Active Connection.

                          make a cron job with @restart for the "when to run" fields.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @travisdh1
                            last edited by

                            @travisdh1 Already tried it.

                            Doesn't appear to work.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              @Dashrender do you mean run XO from Xen directly?

                              Rather than in it's own VM?

                              No, run the scripts that update XO, and kick off the backup/snap/etc of XO from XC/Xen directly.

                              But why?

                              You can run a scheduled backup from within XO to backup your XO VM on any schedule you set. Once that completes run the xo-update.sh script and confirm all is functional.

                              This would also allow you to take advantage of the Continuous delta capabilities. Rather than having to build a full every time you want to update.

                              It would be much easier to set a backup to run weekly for just the XO VM, stop the services, run the update, reboot XO VM, and restart the services.

                              The problem on relying on the delta from within XO is what if the update breaks XO? How do you now roll the delta back?

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @DustinB3403 said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @DustinB3403 said:

                                @Dashrender do you mean run XO from Xen directly?

                                Rather than in it's own VM?

                                No, run the scripts that update XO, and kick off the backup/snap/etc of XO from XC/Xen directly.

                                But why?

                                You can run a scheduled backup from within XO to backup your XO VM on any schedule you set. Once that completes run the xo-update.sh script and confirm all is functional.

                                This would also allow you to take advantage of the Continuous delta capabilities. Rather than having to build a full every time you want to update.

                                It would be much easier to set a backup to run weekly for just the XO VM, stop the services, run the update, reboot XO VM, and restart the services.

                                The problem on relying on the delta from within XO is what if the update breaks XO? How do you now roll the delta back?

                                You don't backup to the XO vDisk you backup to a separate NFS target

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  @Dashrender do you mean run XO from Xen directly?

                                  Rather than in it's own VM?

                                  No, run the scripts that update XO, and kick off the backup/snap/etc of XO from XC/Xen directly.

                                  But why?

                                  You can run a scheduled backup from within XO to backup your XO VM on any schedule you set. Once that completes run the xo-update.sh script and confirm all is functional.

                                  This would also allow you to take advantage of the Continuous delta capabilities. Rather than having to build a full every time you want to update.

                                  It would be much easier to set a backup to run weekly for just the XO VM, stop the services, run the update, reboot XO VM, and restart the services.

                                  The problem on relying on the delta from within XO is what if the update breaks XO? How do you now roll the delta back?

                                  You don't backup to the XO vDisk you backup to a separate NFS target

                                  Sure, but what does the restoration? it's XO, right? So if XO is broken you can't run the store, right?

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    You can export from the NFS Share using WinSCP and import directly into XenCenter if things are horribly broken.

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                                    • DanpD
                                      Danp @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      Already tried it.

                                      Doesn't appear to work.

                                      Post your cron entry here.

                                      Also may want to review these options:
                                      https://www.npmjs.com/package/node-crontab
                                      https://www.npmjs.com/package/forever

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        Ok So here is what I've done to get XO to run at boot.

                                        I made a script in /etc/ named "xo-start.sh" marked it as executable.

                                        cd  /etc
                                        nano xo-start.sh
                                        
                                        
                                        #!/bin/sh
                                        cd /opt/xo-server
                                        sudo npm start
                                        
                                         ctrl+o
                                         ctrl+x
                                        
                                        sudo nano /etc/crontab
                                        
                                        #
                                         shit ton of comments
                                        #
                                        @reboot cd /etc && ./xo-start.sh
                                        
                                        ctrl+o
                                        ctrl+x
                                        
                                        sudo reboot now
                                        
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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          That should be all you need to get XO to run at startup of your XO VM.

                                          I've reboot several times to confirm.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
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                                            So the last question is, how do we get XO to stop so we can manually run our updates.

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