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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @Carnival Boy
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      @Carnival-Boy said:

      Sure. What I meant was it's not configured to poll our mail server. I can't see anywhere to set the polling interval, though surely it can't be set to 5 minutes or longer by default? I'd expect it to poll every few seconds.

      Why is polling the only reasonable way anyway? Why wouldn't a large cloud provider like Zoho use a more real time solution?

      I wonder if it's faster if you use their email service?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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        @johnhooks said:

        @Carnival-Boy said:

        Sure. What I meant was it's not configured to poll our mail server. I can't see anywhere to set the polling interval, though surely it can't be set to 5 minutes or longer by default? I'd expect it to poll every few seconds.

        Why is polling the only reasonable way anyway? Why wouldn't a large cloud provider like Zoho use a more real time solution?

        I wonder if it's faster if you use their email service?

        One would assume that THEY are using their email service and from the sounds of it, it sucks. This would make me wary of using it. Twenty minute delays on email delivery is not fun in this day and age.

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        • KellyK
          Kelly
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          So apparently ManageEngine ServiceDesk can run on Linux: https://www.manageengine.com/products/service-desk/help/adminguide/introduction/installation-linux.html. I may have to spin this up and see if I can retire Jira.
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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Kelly
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            @Kelly said:

            So apparently ManageEngine ServiceDesk can run on Linux: https://www.manageengine.com/products/service-desk/help/adminguide/introduction/installation-linux.html. I may have to

            Only place any of us have ever run it 😉

            But then again, the hosted version is free, so why run your own?

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            • KellyK
              Kelly @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Kelly said:

              So apparently ManageEngine ServiceDesk can run on Linux: https://www.manageengine.com/products/service-desk/help/adminguide/introduction/installation-linux.html. I may have to

              Only place any of us have ever run it 😉

              But then again, the hosted version is free, so why run your own?

              Compliance issues. ITAR makes anything hosted difficult.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                @Kelly said:

                ITAR makes anything hosted security difficult.

                FTFY

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                • KellyK
                  Kelly
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Kelly said:

                  ITAR makes anything hosted security difficult.

                  FTFY

                  Yes, it makes everything harder, but makes hosted things, at best, hard; typically infeasible.

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                    Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by Jason

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Kelly said:

                    So apparently ManageEngine ServiceDesk can run on Linux: https://www.manageengine.com/products/service-desk/help/adminguide/introduction/installation-linux.html. I may have to

                    Only place any of us have ever run it 😉

                    But then again, the hosted version is free*, so why run your own?

                    *with limitations. We host our own.

                    It's also only the Helpdesk module. Service Desk plus includes many other modules.

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                    • Deleted74295D
                      Deleted74295 Banned
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                      @Carnival-Boy give Fresh Desk a try if you are looking for a ticketing system.

                      https://freshdesk.com/

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                      • C
                        Carnival Boy
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                        Do you use it? I've signed up.

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                          Carnival Boy
                          last edited by

                          They have 2 products and I'm confused as to which one I should use:
                          Freshdesk - Customer Support Software
                          Freshservice - Internal IT Helpdesk

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                          • Deleted74295D
                            Deleted74295 Banned @Carnival Boy
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                            @Carnival-Boy said:

                            They have 2 products and I'm confused as to which one I should use:
                            Freshdesk - Customer Support Software
                            Freshservice - Internal IT Helpdesk

                            FreshDesk - Is just a ticking system. That is all it is

                            FreshService, you can do much much more but the price is higher.

                            I do use it 🙂

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                              Carnival Boy
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                              Ah yes, I see. Both are free for 3 agents but the price is a lot more for Freshservice after that. I'll stick with looking at Freshdesk.

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                                Carnival Boy
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                                I got a reply from Zoho. "The usual delay in email fetching should be around 1-3 minutes. If you are consistently facing higher delay times in email fetching. Please send the respective email headers and ticket ID details to support"

                                To be honest, 3 minutes is too long for me. FreshDesk is a few seconds. I prefer to do support via e-mail rather than a browser portal so maybe that's why it's a big issue for me but not others.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
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                                  I went to the FreshDesk website last night, for about 3 seconds.

                                  They have been all over my everything today, LOL.

                                  Even saw an full video ad before I went into Google Play Music.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    I went to the FreshDesk website last night, for about 3 seconds.

                                    They have been all over my everything today, LOL.

                                    Even saw an full video ad before I went into Google Play Music.

                                    Man, I hated that when I was looking for Mitel stuff last year - every site that had ads on it where Mitel this and Mitel that - tracking - ug.

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                                      Carnival Boy
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                                      Freshdesk is awesome. Support is ok, reasonably quick (for free), but I don't think English is their first language.

                                      My main concern with any hosted solution like this is how do you backup your data? It doesn't look like you can. You can export tickets to a CSV file, but you're severely limited as to how much data will fit in a CSV file, so that's not a backup.

                                      I'm nervous about trusting potentially years of data to a company providing me a service for free. It's not like trusting Microsoft or Google with your data, I don't know anything about Freshdesk.

                                      Until I somehow overcome that fear, I'm not sure a hosted solution is for me. Especially a free hosted solution. How do you deal with this @Breffni-Potter?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                                        My main concern with any hosted solution like this is how do you backup your data? It doesn't look like you can. You can export tickets to a CSV file, but you're severely limited as to how much data will fit in a CSV file, so that's not a backup.

                                        Limited by them? CSV will hold as much as you want.

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                                          Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                                          My main concern with any hosted solution like this is how do you backup your data? It doesn't look like you can. You can export tickets to a CSV file, but you're severely limited as to how much data will fit in a CSV file, so that's not a backup.

                                          Limited by them? CSV will hold as much as you want.

                                          Yeah it's an export. How if you are trying to use it like a database instead of import/export it would suck.

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                                            Carnival Boy
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                                            Limited as in text only, whereas a ticket system contains pictures and attachments.

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