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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @ntoxicator said:

      I need to look into it from a management perspective though within a Domain network.. That will be fun. As I'm not a big fan of Windows 2012 server either - due to the theme. But over time you get use to it... I'm just 'old school' type of guy I suppose. Granted, I'm not though.

      In theory you should never see the theme of a server.

      RSAT from Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 - problem solved 🙂

      Plus the server manager, too.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @ntoxicator said:

        I need to look into it from a management perspective though within a Domain network.. That will be fun. As I'm not a big fan of Windows 2012 server either - due to the theme. But over time you get use to it... I'm just 'old school' type of guy I suppose. Granted, I'm not though.

        In theory you should never see the theme of a server.

        RSAT from Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 - problem solved 🙂

        Plus the server manager, too.

        Is server manager something different from RSAT?

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        • coliverC
          coliver @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @ntoxicator said:

          I need to look into it from a management perspective though within a Domain network.. That will be fun. As I'm not a big fan of Windows 2012 server either - due to the theme. But over time you get use to it... I'm just 'old school' type of guy I suppose. Granted, I'm not though.

          In theory you should never see the theme of a server.

          RSAT from Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 - problem solved 🙂

          Plus the server manager, too.

          Is server manager something different from RSAT?

          Yes.

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          • ntoxicatorN
            ntoxicator
            last edited by

            so..

            Promise Pegasus R4 disk array

            VS

            DROBO D5 unit?

            Both thunderbolt devices

            What about user management on mac and the network... I dont really see any Linux server options avail? Unless can integrate OSX machines into a Linux server Active Directory server (zentyal or similar)

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
              last edited by

              @ntoxicator said:

              What about user management on mac and the network... I dont really see any Linux server options avail? Unless can integrate OSX machines into a Linux server Active Directory server (zentyal or similar)

              Mac can join either AD or normal LDAP. Linux can do AD but you would not normally unless you have Windows machines. So you'd normally just use LDAP. Linux can work in any mode here.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                last edited by

                @ntoxicator said:

                so..

                Promise Pegasus R4 disk array

                VS

                DROBO D5 unit?

                Both thunderbolt devices

                Don't even look at Promise, this is not business gear at all. That R4 unit is a perfect example. R6 is your only option on a four bay unit? That's insane.

                The Drobo D5 is an entry level device but it is business class. And it is five bays, where R6 makes sense. And it does SSD tiering. Huge deal.

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                • ntoxicatorN
                  ntoxicator
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                  Gotcha.. Yah I seen that the Promise was not nearly Business level.

                  the drobo though i question of how business level it is. But SSD caching option is a huge plus! This be much simpler storage solution

                  only hiccup would be pulling down their current dropbox data to this drive. This would take installing DB software locally and then point the storage to a Volume on the drobo.

                  I need to read documentation. If the Drobo can do different volumes on the RAID array. Then Im sold. Otherwise, I have to lean to the Synology NAS unit as it is more universal.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                    last edited by

                    @ntoxicator said:

                    the drobo though i question of how business level it is. But SSD caching option is a huge plus! This be much simpler storage solution

                    Entry Business Level, I would classify it. I've worked with them for years and certainly they are niche products but they have good products for their niche and we've had excellent support experiences. You have to know the product and what you are getting and need their specific offering, but for what they are they are generally quite good. Certainly entry level, no question there.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                      last edited by

                      @ntoxicator said:

                      I need to read documentation. If the Drobo can do different volumes on the RAID array. Then Im sold. Otherwise, I have to lean to the Synology NAS unit as it is more universal.

                      I don't have a 5D to test here, but our B800i certainly can make all of the volumes / LUNs that you want and does thin provisioning on them.

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                      • ntoxicatorN
                        ntoxicator
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                        Cool, thank you scott!

                        per Drobo documentation. You can create multiple Volumes on the Raid array. However, once the volume(s) are created. You cannot delete just one(1) of them. Documentation states, if you need to remote one of the Volumes. The entire unit has to be formatted and start over.

                        Nearly non issue. Although, then I question how you can Expand or a Volume previously created or shift space around.

                        The larger Drobo 8000 rack unit looks sweet. Be cool if that supported thunderbolt add-on PCI-e card.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                          last edited by

                          @ntoxicator said:

                          The larger Drobo 8000 rack unit looks sweet. Be cool if that supported thunderbolt add-on PCI-e card.

                          The B800 is not that fast, the TB add on wouldn't do much.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                            last edited by

                            @ntoxicator said:

                            Nearly non issue. Although, then I question how you can Expand or a Volume previously created or shift space around.

                            Don't need to on the B800i and B1200i, at least, due to thin provisioning. Just make it big from the beginning.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              It's been five days, following up to see how this project or planning are going.

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                              • ntoxicatorN
                                ntoxicator
                                last edited by

                                probably going with Drobo unit with 5 drives + mSata SSD drive for SSD Caching. As would be just straight TB connection and drive volume(s) be attached.

                                Waiting to finalize their network setup and their new office build-out prior to moving forward.

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                                • ntoxicatorN
                                  ntoxicator
                                  last edited by

                                  Also have dropbox on mac mini server to push data to dropbox cloud storage. So serve as back-up point and all global access if needed.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                                    last edited by

                                    @ntoxicator said:

                                    probably going with Drobo unit with 5 drives + mSata SSD drive for SSD Caching. As would be just straight TB connection and drive volume(s) be attached.

                                    Waiting to finalize their network setup and their new office build-out prior to moving forward.

                                    Sounds like a good solution.

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                                    • larsen161L
                                      larsen161 @ntoxicator
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                                      @ntoxicator said:

                                      Unless there is another distributed file solution that can make work for their Mac / Apple eco-system.

                                      If they happen to be using Gmail for their email you may want to look at AODocs. Amazon WorkDocs is another option.

                                      @ntoxicator said:

                                      Always complaining to me the slowness of mac's even though they're spec'd accordingly. Soon as you kill dropbox.. runs fine. had to implement alot of QoS on their network to throttle DB traffic.

                                      Did you make any changes to the LAN Sync feature in Dropbox? I've always seen big improvements when blocking cloud sync services over WLAN within the office via endpoint software. e.g. Symantec

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