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    Mac Mini as OSX Server + GlobalSan iSCSI

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      marcinozga @coliver
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      @coliver said:

      Do you need it to be run by the Mac Mini? I'm pretty sure the ReadyNAS does NFS storage which Macs can mount natively with a little program or script. They run a Debian fork under the hood and have Dropbox in their app marketplace as well.

      NFS on OS X has its own quirks and is not as reliable as on other Unix systems. And you can forget about Spotlight searches without the use of OS X Server.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by

        Why are you looking at a local solution instead of a cloud one? Wouldn't a cloud one work better for multi locations?

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        • ntoxicatorN
          ntoxicator
          last edited by ntoxicator

          Plan was to have a volume/disk attached to Mac Mini running the Server app. in el capitan its nice! alot of changes and merged to a single app... more rounded & polished per say.

          But all shares would be SMB (as apple moving away from AFP) and also WebDav share option
          Formatted as HFS+ ofcourse

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          • ntoxicatorN
            ntoxicator
            last edited by

            ease of use and drives auto map to login.

            These are not brighest computer users. Trying to KISS

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            • ntoxicatorN
              ntoxicator
              last edited by

              Also I know the limitation on the share being formatted as HFS+

              Compatible with Apple eco-system. but not linux or windows. due to filesystem. the plan was have the Dropbox app be on the Mac mini and re-publish the files globally. and then only certain computers would need dropbox installed if person needs access to the company files for read/write

              all suggestions welcome for cloud solutions though!

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                scottalanmiller @marcinozga
                last edited by

                @marcinozga said:

                ...OS X has its own quirks and is not as reliable as on other Unix systems.

                FTFY

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                  scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                  last edited by

                  @ntoxicator said:

                  Also I know the limitation on the share being formatted as HFS+

                  Compatible with Apple eco-system. but not linux or windows. due to filesystem. the plan was have the Dropbox app be on the Mac mini and re-publish the files globally. and then only certain computers would need dropbox installed if person needs access to the company files for read/write

                  all suggestions welcome for cloud solutions though!

                  SMB from HFS+ will still allow sharing outside of the Mac world.

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                  • ntoxicatorN
                    ntoxicator
                    last edited by

                    Nothing is perfect for systems. Unless straight Linux server. But then have limitations or script your own and use open source projects

                    can I setup linux server for Samba shares? Absolutely. Will it work? Sure...

                    Will there be limitations.. absolutely.

                    Looking to simplify their network and not have a phone call each day.

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                    • ntoxicatorN
                      ntoxicator @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller

                      What about read/write capability though?

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                      • ntoxicatorN
                        ntoxicator
                        last edited by

                        I guess I just need to be babysat some more.. lol

                        I appreciate everyone's input here. ALOT of opinions and knowledge shared together.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                          last edited by

                          @ntoxicator said:

                          Nothing is perfect for systems. Unless straight Linux server. But then have limitations or script your own and use open source projects

                          can I setup linux server for Samba shares? Absolutely. Will it work? Sure...

                          Will there be limitations.. absolutely.

                          Looking to simplify their network and not have a phone call each day.

                          Actually, in theory, a Linux server can beat the Mac Mini server in every way. More reliable, lower cost, high performance. Other than your effort in setting it up, which might alone be easier, there is a good chance that it would beat the Mac Mini in every way.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                            last edited by

                            @ntoxicator said:

                            @scottalanmiller

                            What about read/write capability though?

                            Of what? Sorry but I lost the context on this question 🙂

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              Did I miss the answer as to why you're not going to a cloud solution?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Did I miss the answer as to why you're not going to a cloud solution?

                                Speed, I think.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  They have a cloud based one today and don't like it. Not that another wouldn't be better, but DropBox isn't bad as those things go.

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                                  • ntoxicatorN
                                    ntoxicator
                                    last edited by

                                    Right, speed is a factor here. And they're not happy with dropbox. Years ago they had a SMB windows server that did file Shares. Then they moved to dropbox (never my suggestion) and have griped since.

                                    As you know, dropbox installs locally on machine and uses disk space to locally sync the files to local machine(s). Not cool when they have over 500GB of data. Fills up drives fast.

                                    I just seen Mac OSX server to be faster & easier to "turn up" and hit ground running for OpenDirectory, SMB shares and "Group Policy" like settings.

                                    i'm all for hearing suggestive alternative solutions!

                                    But right now thought process is Mac mini + DAS (if can find one having features.. looking at drobo now)

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                                    • ntoxicatorN
                                      ntoxicator @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller

                                      Read/write capability was in regards to the drive being HFS+ file system. Even with SMB share option checked on mac mini. This allows for read/write capability from Windows hosts?

                                      I thought would be able to write to the drive from Windows because being HFS+.. or is that ONLY if the HFS+ formatted drive was directly connected to a Windows/linux machine?

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                                        brianlittlejohn @ntoxicator
                                        last edited by brianlittlejohn

                                        @ntoxicator It can write to the drive over SMB. Windows doesn't natively have the driver to write/read hfs+ so it cant access the file system directly attached. Going over the SMB protocol windows doesn't care what the file system is, that is not its job.

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                                        • ntoxicatorN
                                          ntoxicator
                                          last edited by

                                          Gotcha.. Thats what I originally thought. As I use to use SAMBA as file share server years ago and was fine for my windows hosts.

                                          So then could really do away with dropbox up-sync. Unless they decide to keep 1-user account for backup purpose. Otherwise, all shares could be accessed over the Site to Site VPN tunnels

                                          Still not truely seeing a good DAS thunderbolt unit. The Drobo 5D is a good contender. Alot of bad reviews; but appears to be from folks using it with Windows system with USB3.0. reviews for device connected over thunderbolt appear to be positive.

                                          Unsure about their Hybrid Raid (RAID-6) setup though.

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                                            marcinozga @ntoxicator
                                            last edited by

                                            @ntoxicator said:

                                            Gotcha.. Thats what I originally thought. As I use to use SAMBA as file share server years ago and was fine for my windows hosts.

                                            So then could really do away with dropbox up-sync. Unless they decide to keep 1-user account for backup purpose. Otherwise, all shares could be accessed over the Site to Site VPN tunnels

                                            Still not truely seeing a good DAS thunderbolt unit. The Drobo 5D is a good contender. Alot of bad reviews; but appears to be from folks using it with Windows system with USB3.0. reviews for device connected over thunderbolt appear to be positive.

                                            Unsure about their Hybrid Raid (RAID-6) setup though.

                                            Any storage connected with USB - doesn't matter which version - is just a disappointment, and it's not restricted to Drobo.
                                            Use SSD caching and stop worrying about RAID levels (as long as it's not RAID 5).

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