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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said:

      DESKTOP: is it even worth discussing SA, or is it too complicated? Maybe a high level overview, or the Cliff Notes version?

      If you want to be "always up to date" on your desktops, want a few unique features or are doing VDI then SA is often the way to go, as @jason pointed out.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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        @brianlittlejohn said:

        I remember a SW thread where Chris from Microsoft addressed this, and to upgrade your machines to 10 and image them, you have to manually run the update to 10, then go back and re-image.

        To get the free upgrade, you mean? Since there is a free 8.1 -> 10 path, I could see that. Is there something similar to get from 7 -> 8?

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        • brianlittlejohnB
          brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller I don't think there is a free upgrade path to 8.1 only directly to 10

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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            @brianlittlejohn said:

            @scottalanmiller I don't think there is a free upgrade path to 8.1 only directly to 10

            How would that help his situation then? Once he has the upgrade rights, just jump to 10. I must be missing something.

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            • hobbit666H
              hobbit666 @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              @JaredBusch

              You cannot image 200 machines with OEM Windows 7 to Windows 10 by only purchasing 1 Windows 10 VL.

              Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

              This is what i'm looking at doing but only for new machines. Manually upgrade them to Win10. Then deploy a image that has our software on it.

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              • Reid CooperR
                Reid Cooper
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                Sounds like most large businesses will just pay for upgrade rights, probably cheaper on a machine by machine basis. And way easier to track.

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                • brianlittlejohnB
                  brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                  @scottalanmiller I don't think there is a free upgrade path to 8.1 only directly to 10

                  How would that help his situation then? Once he has the upgrade rights, just jump to 10. I must be missing something.

                  I may be missing something, but there is a free path from 7 to 10 as well. Just if you are wanting to take advantage of the free upgrade and have imaging rights you have to manually do the upgrade from 7 to 10 before you are allowed to image.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Does that free path include going to each intermediate version?

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                    • brianlittlejohnB
                      brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                        @brianlittlejohn said:

                        @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

                        Hmmmm... we'll need @Dashrender to explain what is his sticking point in the upgrade process.

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                        • brianlittlejohnB
                          brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @brianlittlejohn said:

                          @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

                          Hmmmm... we'll need @Dashrender to explain what is his sticking point in the upgrade process.

                          I think his sticking point is he has to manually go to each machine initially to upgrade them.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                            @brianlittlejohn said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @brianlittlejohn said:

                            @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

                            Hmmmm... we'll need @Dashrender to explain what is his sticking point in the upgrade process.

                            I think his sticking point is he has to manually go to each machine initially to upgrade them.

                            Yeah, but he was talking about having to go through each version 7 - 8 - 8.1 to get to 10 .

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                            • brianlittlejohnB
                              brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

                              I think he just has pcs on both win 7 & 8, not that he has to go through each version.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
                                last edited by

                                @brianlittlejohn said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

                                I think he just has pcs on both win 7 & 8, not that he has to go through each version.

                                Oh okay.

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                                • AVI-NetworkGuyA
                                  AVI-NetworkGuy @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                                  I remember a SW thread where Chris from Microsoft addressed this, and to upgrade your machines to 10 and image them, you have to manually run the update to 10, then go back and re-image.

                                  To get the free upgrade, you mean? Since there is a free 8.1 -> 10 path, I could see that. Is there something similar to get from 7 -> 8?

                                  It was my understanding that the free upgrade to Windows 10 did not include Enterprise. The upgrade to Enterprise still requires a VL agreement, so in that regard, nothing changed with the release of 10.

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                                  • brianlittlejohnB
                                    brianlittlejohn @AVI-NetworkGuy
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                                    @AVI-NetworkGuy Yea, you can't upgrade enterprise version, only professional

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                                    • brianlittlejohnB
                                      brianlittlejohn @brianlittlejohn
                                      last edited by

                                      @brianlittlejohn and home as well. Just to be thorough.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @AVI-NetworkGuy
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                                        @AVI-NetworkGuy said:

                                        It was my understanding that the free upgrade to Windows 10 did not include Enterprise. The upgrade to Enterprise still requires a VL agreement, so in that regard, nothing changed with the release of 10.

                                        Mostly companies that run Enterprise also do so under an EA and negotiate those upgrades anyway.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill
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                                          You can't do a clean install of 10. You have to upgrade to 10 manually first for it to register the machine. THEN you can do a clean install using the key they give you.

                                          Perhaps that is what he means?

                                          THOUGH ... if a am technically allowed to run Windows 10, and get a VL key for 1 (buying 1 Windows 10 Upgrade VL), could I just go that route? Or is that what you are saying?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                            @BRRABill said:

                                            THOUGH ... if a am technically allowed to run Windows 10, and get a VL key for 1 (buying 1 Windows 10 Upgrade VL), could I just go that route? Or is that what you are saying?

                                            That is not one that I know the answer to. If you could have manually upgraded and you have the reimaing rights, does that cover you? I believe that the consensus is "no", but I am not sure myself of the source of that information.

                                            That might be a @chris question.

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