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    • brianlittlejohnB
      brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @JaredBusch

      You cannot image 200 machines with OEM Windows 7 to Windows 10 by only purchasing 1 Windows 10 VL.

      Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

      Is that true? Is that because you have some path that by doing it manually MS will grant you upgrade rights but only one version at a time? What is making this the case?

      I remember a SW thread where Chris from Microsoft addressed this, and to upgrade your machines to 10 and image them, you have to manually run the update to 10, then go back and re-image.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said:

        DESKTOP: is it even worth discussing SA, or is it too complicated? Maybe a high level overview, or the Cliff Notes version?

        If you want to be "always up to date" on your desktops, want a few unique features or are doing VDI then SA is often the way to go, as @jason pointed out.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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          @brianlittlejohn said:

          I remember a SW thread where Chris from Microsoft addressed this, and to upgrade your machines to 10 and image them, you have to manually run the update to 10, then go back and re-image.

          To get the free upgrade, you mean? Since there is a free 8.1 -> 10 path, I could see that. Is there something similar to get from 7 -> 8?

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          • brianlittlejohnB
            brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller I don't think there is a free upgrade path to 8.1 only directly to 10

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
              last edited by

              @brianlittlejohn said:

              @scottalanmiller I don't think there is a free upgrade path to 8.1 only directly to 10

              How would that help his situation then? Once he has the upgrade rights, just jump to 10. I must be missing something.

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              • hobbit666H
                hobbit666 @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                @JaredBusch

                You cannot image 200 machines with OEM Windows 7 to Windows 10 by only purchasing 1 Windows 10 VL.

                Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

                This is what i'm looking at doing but only for new machines. Manually upgrade them to Win10. Then deploy a image that has our software on it.

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                • Reid CooperR
                  Reid Cooper
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                  Sounds like most large businesses will just pay for upgrade rights, probably cheaper on a machine by machine basis. And way easier to track.

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                  • brianlittlejohnB
                    brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                    @scottalanmiller I don't think there is a free upgrade path to 8.1 only directly to 10

                    How would that help his situation then? Once he has the upgrade rights, just jump to 10. I must be missing something.

                    I may be missing something, but there is a free path from 7 to 10 as well. Just if you are wanting to take advantage of the free upgrade and have imaging rights you have to manually do the upgrade from 7 to 10 before you are allowed to image.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Does that free path include going to each intermediate version?

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                      • brianlittlejohnB
                        brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                          @brianlittlejohn said:

                          @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

                          Hmmmm... we'll need @Dashrender to explain what is his sticking point in the upgrade process.

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                          • brianlittlejohnB
                            brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @brianlittlejohn said:

                            @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

                            Hmmmm... we'll need @Dashrender to explain what is his sticking point in the upgrade process.

                            I think his sticking point is he has to manually go to each machine initially to upgrade them.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
                              last edited by

                              @brianlittlejohn said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @brianlittlejohn said:

                              @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

                              Hmmmm... we'll need @Dashrender to explain what is his sticking point in the upgrade process.

                              I think his sticking point is he has to manually go to each machine initially to upgrade them.

                              Yeah, but he was talking about having to go through each version 7 - 8 - 8.1 to get to 10 .

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                              • brianlittlejohnB
                                brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

                                I think he just has pcs on both win 7 & 8, not that he has to go through each version.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
                                  last edited by

                                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

                                  I think he just has pcs on both win 7 & 8, not that he has to go through each version.

                                  Oh okay.

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                                  • AVI-NetworkGuyA
                                    AVI-NetworkGuy @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                                    I remember a SW thread where Chris from Microsoft addressed this, and to upgrade your machines to 10 and image them, you have to manually run the update to 10, then go back and re-image.

                                    To get the free upgrade, you mean? Since there is a free 8.1 -> 10 path, I could see that. Is there something similar to get from 7 -> 8?

                                    It was my understanding that the free upgrade to Windows 10 did not include Enterprise. The upgrade to Enterprise still requires a VL agreement, so in that regard, nothing changed with the release of 10.

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                                    • brianlittlejohnB
                                      brianlittlejohn @AVI-NetworkGuy
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                                      @AVI-NetworkGuy Yea, you can't upgrade enterprise version, only professional

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                                      • brianlittlejohnB
                                        brianlittlejohn @brianlittlejohn
                                        last edited by

                                        @brianlittlejohn and home as well. Just to be thorough.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @AVI-NetworkGuy
                                          last edited by

                                          @AVI-NetworkGuy said:

                                          It was my understanding that the free upgrade to Windows 10 did not include Enterprise. The upgrade to Enterprise still requires a VL agreement, so in that regard, nothing changed with the release of 10.

                                          Mostly companies that run Enterprise also do so under an EA and negotiate those upgrades anyway.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            You can't do a clean install of 10. You have to upgrade to 10 manually first for it to register the machine. THEN you can do a clean install using the key they give you.

                                            Perhaps that is what he means?

                                            THOUGH ... if a am technically allowed to run Windows 10, and get a VL key for 1 (buying 1 Windows 10 Upgrade VL), could I just go that route? Or is that what you are saying?

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