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    Effective and Realistic Security Training?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      This must start with the company caring first.

      Or with IT not caring. The first step is aligning IT's desires to match the corporate desires. A mismatch there will never go well. Sure, it sounds great for the company to care about security, so IT can try to drive that if they want. But remember, nothing is a need until the company needs it. If the company doesn't care about security, security doesn't matter. It's that simple (until someone is breaking a law.)

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller If the company doesn't care, would we be doing security training to start with?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @dafyre said:

          Even if 1 person learns something, we've don our job.

          If the company doesn't care, what makes this our job? I think the core thing here is not feeling that things are our jobs that the company has not made our jobs. It's less of an issue that a company doesn't prioritize this, but that we often prioritize it on our own.

          How many times have you (well Scott would never stand for this, so he's exempt from this question) have you (IT folks) been blamed for a problem like this..

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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            @dafyre said:

            @scottalanmiller If the company doesn't care, would we be doing security training to start with?

            That's my point.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre
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              I've been lucky and not been blamed for it... but I have gotten to tell several people "I told you so" over the course of the years.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                How many times have you (well Scott would never stand for this, so he's exempt from this question) have you (IT folks) been blamed for a problem like this..

                Scott's answer is: don't take anyone's s&1t

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  How many times have you (well Scott would never stand for this, so he's exempt from this question) have you (IT folks) been blamed for a problem like this..

                  Scott's answer is: don't take anyone's s&1t

                  That generally means either quiting or being fired.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender Or simply standing your ground when you know you are right. If it comes to being fired, then so be it.

                    But I agree.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      How many times have you (well Scott would never stand for this, so he's exempt from this question) have you (IT folks) been blamed for a problem like this..

                      Scott's answer is: don't take anyone's s&1t

                      That generally means either quiting or being fired.

                      Not in my case. It just means knowing who is at fault, why and holding people accountable.

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                      • stusS
                        stus Vendor
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                        Fascinating discussion. And yes, we provide an integrated platform for simulating phishing attacks and security awareness training. Cost: avg 10 bucks per user per year. www.KnowBe4.com

                        Warm regards, Stu

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @stus
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                          @stus Thanks for popping in!

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