Backup System For 5 PC SMB
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Here are a few "throwing pasta at the wall" ideas to kick around:
- Get a small NAS to use for backups. Stick with StorageCraft or look at Veeam Endpoint Protection or similar. Use local backup files so that you can actually do fast restores. (You can then send this to a cloud backup location too if desired.)
- Move everyone to central NAS storage and fix their underlying issues. No need for all of this complication at all.
- Move everyone to storage through a product like ownCloud, MS Office 365 OneDrive for Business, Google Drive, DropBox, etc. Eliminate the issue completely.
- Continue to use backup products like StorageCraft and avoid getting a NAS but move to AetherStore to turn the unused local drive space into a backup target for the network.
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I've many, many, many times told many, many, many SMBs they are wasting time/money/etc and should install a server/etc. It is a huge brick wall most of the time. And these are my friends, not people we are trying to get jobs from.
It's actually a reason we decided not to go into the small (20 person or less) MSP space. (I'll have to post on the MSP thread another day.) It's just too much time fighting to get companies to a simple baseline.
IBut, I am interested in all the great new product ideas this thread will pop up, and I am sure we'll get a good solution. Errrr...a solution that is OK, at least!
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@scottalanmiller said:
- Get a small NAS to use for backups. Stick with StorageCraft or look at Veeam Endpoint Protection or similar. Use local backup files so that you can actually do fast restores. (You can then send this to a cloud backup location too if desired.)
That is exactly what I am looking to do.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
- Get a small NAS to use for backups. Stick with StorageCraft or look at Veeam Endpoint Protection or similar. Use local backup files so that you can actually do fast restores. (You can then send this to a cloud backup location too if desired.)
That is exactly what I am looking to do.
Ah, the requirement to not have a server sounded like a NAS would not be an option since a NAS is just a type of server. That requirement was confusing. If having a NAS is acceptable we have much better options.
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@BRRABill said:
I've many, many, many times told many, many, many SMBs they are wasting time/money/etc and should install a server/etc. It is a huge brick wall most of the time. And these are my friends, not people we are trying to get jobs from.
Server? Where? Oh you mean this little box? Pfffft, nah man, this is just a NAS. Not a scary server. I wouldn't do that to you!
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@scottalanmiller said:
Ah, the requirement to not have a server sounded like a NAS would not be an option since a NAS is just a type of server. That requirement was confusing. If having a NAS is acceptable we have much better options.
Ah, perhaps that is what was confusing people.
Yes, there has to be a place to store the local ShadowProtect/Veeam/Etc backup. But I am looking for cloud replication of those backups, because some of the places I deal with, it's not out of the realm of possibility they backup device would be stolen along with the PC.
I was originally thinking USB drive on each machine, but a NAS would work just as well. And I know some of the NASes out there you can replicate.
Are we getting somewhere?
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@BRRABill Yup! I still suggest a synology nas + cloudsync to nas + backup nas to cloud + schedule disk2vhd
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@scottalanmiller said:
I actually think that AetherStore might be your real answer here. You get to keep everything that you have as it is, add nothing but one piece of software and voila... you have storage capacity on your network with rapid restore capabilities. Calling @shannon @Rob @aboyd
Hmm. Seems like with 5 computers it would be pretty fragile though.
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So from a product standpoint, it sounds like a two bay Synology, ioSafe or ReadyNAS is where you want to be. Those are the vendors that make the most sense here.
For a small business like this ioSafe might be very interesting as their ioSafe 214 is the perfect size and is fire safe and water resistant.
@Brett-at-ioSafe for ioSafe
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@Jason said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I actually think that AetherStore might be your real answer here. You get to keep everything that you have as it is, add nothing but one piece of software and voila... you have storage capacity on your network with rapid restore capabilities. Calling @shannon @Rob @aboyd
Hmm. Seems like with 5 computers it would be pretty fragile though.
The stock setup is to use only four.
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@MattSpeller said:
@BRRABill Yup! I still suggest a synology nas + cloudsync to nas + backup nas to cloud + schedule disk2vhd
Are you overwriting the backup each time you do that? Also, isn't that going to take a considerable amount of time?
It's why I was thining incremental imaged-based would be the way to go.
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@BRRABill said:
Are you overwriting the backup each time you do that? Also, isn't that going to take a considerable amount of time?
Buy enough space to save at least 1 extra copy & not really for just 5 pc's. You could easily rip 1TB over gig lan a night.
It's why I was thining incremental imaged-based would be the way to go.
Yeah, that'd be better, but it wouldn't be free
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Doesn't have to be free.
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@BRRABill go acronis then like you mentioned in the OP - I used it years ago and it kicked some serious butt for stuff like that.
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@MattSpeller said:
@BRRABill go acronis then like you mentioned in the OP - I used it years ago and it kicked some serious butt for stuff like that.
I was actually looking at that.
http://www.acronis.com/en-us/cloud/backup-service/purchase/
$299 a year for 3 PCs with 250GB. local and cloud.
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@scottalanmiller said:
- Continue to use backup products like StorageCraft and avoid getting a NAS but move to AetherStore to turn the unused local drive space into a backup target for the network.
funny I too was thinking of AetherStore while at lunch.
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Though to go from 250GB to 500GB the price goes from $299 to $1049.
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This is one of the areas where Aetherstore would really shine, I think. I'm currently using it as a backup target for my lab at work, and it seems to do pretty good (and I have a crappy lab setup, lol).
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@dafyre said:
This is one of the areas where Aetherstore would really shine, I think. I'm currently using it as a backup target for my lab at work, and it seems to do pretty good (and I have a crappy lab setup, lol).
How does it deal with getting the data offsite?
