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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      With virtualization scenarios it is becoming increasing common for people to buy a few servers, two or three, and wanting to do failover for planned maintenance or load balancing. Often they forget that this requires either enough Server Standard licenses per host to handle whatever load is thrown at it or it requires DC licensing. Costs can escalate up very quickly in ways that people rarely anticipate.

      I know some hyperconverged vendors work hard to educate customers about how different settings will cause licensing headaches, but it is complicated and most vendors when selling an inverted pyramid of doom often leave out the immense cost of licensing that it will cost them on top of the additional hardware.

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      • BRRABillB
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        I can certainly say I have learned a lot of licensing and activation.

        I previously thought they were the same.

        Like say I backed up an OEM machine, and wanted to BMR it to a new machine. This will not activate. Now, I can call Microsoft and they may or may not give me a new activation key, but regardless, this is NOT a valid use of the original OEM license. The new machine needs its own license.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said:

          Like say I backed up an OEM machine, and wanted to BMR it to a new machine. This will not activate. Now, I can call Microsoft and they may or may not give me a new activation key, but regardless, this is NOT a valid use of the original OEM license. The new machine needs its own license.

          So to go over the licensing for this scenario (which we covered offline but to recap for those that did not see that conversation...)

          You need three licenses to enable this:

          • The OEM License for the original install (should come with the purchase of the old desktop)
          • The OEM License for the new install (should come with the purchase of the desktop)
          • Volume License Imaging Rights

          With those three things together you should be able to do a BMR restore. Each place is licensed and the ability to use the old system image on the new hardware is covered.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Here is the Datto Alto which is one of the products in this category.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              I brought this up at another point, but it potentially applies here, too. Jentu's technology might work here for allowing backups with testing where you could take a backup and actually test it on the same hardware via Jentu without needing a VM anywhere. Not their intended use case, but it should work just fine.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Taggin @JentuTechnologies for that. They might have some insight.

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                • StrongBadS
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Backup System For 5 PC SMB:

                  Taggin @JentuTechnologies for that. They might have some insight.

                  Ha, guess they didn't 🙂

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                  • StrongBadS
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                    Just stumbled on this and posted a separate thread but it fits in this one too: https://www.vembu.com/endpoint-backup-free/

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @StrongBad
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                      @StrongBad

                      I think the final takeaway, especially for non-IT folk, is to move away from a system that requires this sort of backup.

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                      • StrongBadS
                        StrongBad @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill said in Backup System For 5 PC SMB:

                        @StrongBad

                        I think the final takeaway, especially for non-IT folk, is to move away from a system that requires this sort of backup.

                        Ideally, of course.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @StrongBad
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                          @StrongBad said in Backup System For 5 PC SMB:

                          @BRRABill said in Backup System For 5 PC SMB:

                          @StrongBad

                          I think the final takeaway, especially for non-IT folk, is to move away from a system that requires this sort of backup.

                          Ideally, of course.

                          The age old answer ... "depends"

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