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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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      @IT-ADMIN said:

      i want the cheapest option

      They are all the same price. You would have to look at specific devices. Most DAS, SAN and NAS are the same units in this price range. So it is all in how you hook them up, primarily.

      The cheapest option would be different backup software with a NAS for all of your devices to backup to, surely.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        the size of the business is very small, and the size of data i want to backup is about 500 GB

        For one server or all of the servers?

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          IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          the size of the business is very small, and the size of data i want to backup is about 500 GB

          For one server or all of the servers?

          of course one server, since i will use DAS,

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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            @IT-ADMIN said:

            of course one server, since i will use DAS,

            Argh, but why are you going to use DAS if NAS can back up all of your servers? We are going in circles of you not explaining what is motivating you, then confusing DAS and NAS, then starting over. Please just tell us the secret that you are holding back.

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              IT-ADMIN
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              in this case i will content myself with DAS, because as far as i can see SAN is the most expensive one

              No, you skipped my article. DAS, NAS and SAN have no price difference. Anyone telling you that they are different based on cost does not understand the terms and you should not talk to them about storage further. We are only talking about protocols here, that there is a cost difference makes no sense conceptually.

              no i take a look over it, but this article don't discuss prices, it just discuss technical differences between the 2 technologies NAS and SAN

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                IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                of course one server, since i will use DAS,

                Argh, but why are you going to use DAS if NAS can back up all of your servers? We are going in circles of you not explaining what is motivating you, then confusing DAS and NAS, then starting over. Please just tell us the secret that you are holding back.

                loooool i swear there is no secret
                what i want was described in detailed in my previous post

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  no i take a look over it, but this article don't discuss prices, it just discuss technical differences between the 2 technologies NAS and SAN

                  But if you understand what they are, you know that they are the same physical devices, so there is no price difference. Nearly all devices, and certainly all lower cost ones, that an SMB would consider are both NAS and SAN and it is up to you how you use them.

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN
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                    ok, ok
                    there is 2 option for me :
                    buy a SAN and keep using windows backup
                    buy a NAS and buy another backup solution
                    which one is cheap ??

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      loooool i swear there is no secret
                      what i want was described in detailed in my previous post

                      But didn't you state that there were multiple servers to back up? Isn't there value in not wasting money with DAS because you would need one DAS for each machine?

                      You've been given a really cheap and safer option to use another backup software to NAS. Save money, get more features. Why would you continue to look at Windows Backup or DAS? We've established that both of those are bad for you, right? So what is making you continue to think that they are viable? There is something that you are not telling us that is totally driving your decision making here.

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN
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                        no, no
                        what i was thinking is that SAN is very expensive, this is what makes me choosing DAS over it
                        i learned from the spicework virtualization course that SAN is the most expensive one for this reason SAN was the last option on my list 🙂

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          no, no
                          what i was thinking is that SAN is very expensive, this is what makes me choosing DAS over it

                          But we aren't talking about SAN at all, DAS and NAS. SAN should not have entered the discussion.

                          But SAN and DAS are always the same price as they are just two ways to hook up the same thing.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            i learned from the spicework virtualization course that SAN is the most expensive one for this reason SAN was the last option on my list 🙂

                            External storage is the most expensive, but all external storage is expensive if you don't need it. You are talking about comparing a SAN to having "Nothing". Of course buying something is more expensive than having nothing.

                            The only reason that SAN exists, in theory, is to lower costs as it has no other advantage other than saving money at large scale.

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                              IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              no, no
                              what i was thinking is that SAN is very expensive, this is what makes me choosing DAS over it

                              But we aren't talking about SAN at all, DAS and NAS. SAN should not have entered the discussion.

                              But SAN and DAS are always the same price as they are just two ways to hook up the same thing.

                              so you told me that SAN and DAS are always the same price
                              what do you think about this
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                                IT-ADMIN
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                                i get a badge from SW based on a test regarding this
                                but it looks like this course not having exact information

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  i get a badge from SW based on a test regarding this
                                  but it looks like this course not having exact information

                                  Spiceworks is a marketing company, they are not an IT or technical company. They know nothing about this stuff. That's like getting a badge from a hot dog vendor saying that you are good at Systems Administration because they sell lots of hot dogs to IT people. Why would you get information like that from someone not in IT?

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                                    IT-ADMIN
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                                    when i see SAN : money falling from heaven, i remove the SAN from my list lol

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      what do you think about this

                                      I think that you need to work on identifying when someone is in marketing or sales rather than an IT professional. Spiceworks is completely the wrong place to be getting that kind of information. They are only there to sell things for the vendors who sponsor them, nothing else. Why would marketing interns have any idea what a SAN even means?

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                                        IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Why would you get information like that from someone not in IT?

                                        SW not IT 😳

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                          last edited by

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          but it looks like this course not having exact information

                                          There were some complaints about their using "Sam" too to confuse people into thinking that they paid "SAM" to make sure that the information was correct. Because obviously this wasn't checked by anyone.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Why would you get information like that from someone not in IT?

                                            SW not IT 😳

                                            Of course it isn't IT. Why would you associate the two? They've never claimed to be anything of the sort.

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