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      IT-ADMIN @coliver
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      @coliver said:

      @IT-ADMIN said:

      by the way i have seen a strange thing when i backup my C volume, the original C volume has 70 GB and the backup has 33.6 GB ? is it compressed or what ??

      Yes, Veeam does compression.

      but compression from 70 to 33.6. wooow

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        coliver @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        @coliver said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        by the way i have seen a strange thing when i backup my C volume, the original C volume has 70 GB and the backup has 33.6 GB ? is it compressed or what ??

        Yes, Veeam does compression.

        but compression from 70 to 33.6. wooow

        ~50% compression? That's pretty good. At one of my last positions we had 66% compression and deduplication. I don't think %50 is out of the ordinary.

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          IT-ADMIN @coliver
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          @coliver said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          @coliver said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          by the way i have seen a strange thing when i backup my C volume, the original C volume has 70 GB and the backup has 33.6 GB ? is it compressed or what ??

          Yes, Veeam does compression.

          but compression from 70 to 33.6. wooow

          ~50% compression? That's pretty good. At one of my last positions we had 66% compression and deduplication. I don't think %50 is out of the ordinary.

          great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

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            dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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            @IT-ADMIN said:

            great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

            It could. I'm getting ~ 40% compression on my backups at home.

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              IT-ADMIN @dafyre
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              @dafyre said:

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

              It could. I'm getting ~ 40% compression on my backups at home.

              Dear @dafyre, i have a technical question, if we boot from the bootable USB and restore the server using a previous system image, does this image format completely all server hard drives ???

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                IT-ADMIN
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                because it must be, because sometime we want to restore due to a virus took over the whole system and we want the system image to format everything so that we can put the restore point in a clean server

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                  dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  because it must be, because sometime we want to restore due to a virus took over the whole system

                  I haven't had to do a full system-restore yet, but I would assume you would be able to pick and choose what to restore. If you are restoring because you got hit by a virus, I would assume you want to restore everything anyway.

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                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    @dafyre said:

                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

                    It could. I'm getting ~ 40% compression on my backups at home.

                    Dear @dafyre, i have a technical question, if we boot from the bootable USB and restore the server using a previous system image, does this image format completely all server hard drives ???

                    That's what restoring a server would mean.

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                      IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      @dafyre said:

                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

                      It could. I'm getting ~ 40% compression on my backups at home.

                      Dear @dafyre, i have a technical question, if we boot from the bootable USB and restore the server using a previous system image, does this image format completely all server hard drives ???

                      That's what restoring a server would mean.

                      i see, i was unaware of how restore is made, so the restoring will format all hard drives, that is great

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                        IT-ADMIN
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                        what about the built in restore points in windows 7 for example, you mean that if i select a x restore point it will format the computer ???

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          what about the built in restore points in windows 7 for example, you mean that if i select a x restore point it will format the computer ???

                          Neither case formats, both cases basically format. Format doesn't mean what you think that it means. Both cases apply a new image to the machine in roughly an identical way.

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                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            @dafyre said:

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

                            It could. I'm getting ~ 40% compression on my backups at home.

                            Dear @dafyre, i have a technical question, if we boot from the bootable USB and restore the server using a previous system image, does this image format completely all server hard drives ???

                            That's what restoring a server would mean.

                            i see, i was unaware of how restore is made, so the restoring will format all hard drives, that is great

                            Just the words.... if you restore the system, you are restoring all of it. It doesn't do a format and put files back one by one, it literally restores the entire system as it was with the original formatting in the image.

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                              scottalanmiller
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                              From the way that you are using the word format, I can't tell if you are aware of what a format operation is so I can't tell how to respond. The entire drive is imaged, no format operation is run, the disk will be completely replaced as if it was formatted.

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                                IT-ADMIN
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                                i can understand that the new system image overwrite the old damaged one without deleting the damaged system image, it is like bringing the time back to the time that the new system image was taken

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                                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  i can understand that the new system image overwrite the old damaged one without deleting the damaged system image, it is like bringing the time back to the time that the new system image was taken

                                  Um, no. Overwriting and deleting are the same thing here. It IS deleting. How could it not be? Wouldn't going "back in time" delete anything done since that time?

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                                    IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    i can understand that the new system image overwrite the old damaged one without deleting the damaged system image, it is like bringing the time back to the time that the new system image was taken

                                    Um, no. Overwriting and deleting are the same thing here. It IS deleting. How could it not be? Wouldn't going "back in time" delete anything done since that time?

                                    yes this is what i mean Dear @scottalanmiller

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                                      IT-ADMIN
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                                      anyway i guess it is a complicated process 🙂

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                                        Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        i can understand that the new system image overwrite the old damaged one without deleting the damaged system image, it is like bringing the time back to the time that the new system image was taken

                                        Um, no. Overwriting and deleting are the same thing here. It IS deleting. How could it not be? Wouldn't going "back in time" delete anything done since that time?

                                        Heck no. Here we can't remove failed backup or the log of the failed backups everything remains untouch as it was taken, even if it's bad and wasting space. Remove it and someone (or a virus) could be overwriting something to cover it's tracks.

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                                          scottalanmiller @Jason
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                                          @Jason said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          i can understand that the new system image overwrite the old damaged one without deleting the damaged system image, it is like bringing the time back to the time that the new system image was taken

                                          Um, no. Overwriting and deleting are the same thing here. It IS deleting. How could it not be? Wouldn't going "back in time" delete anything done since that time?

                                          Heck no. Here we can't remove failed backup or the log of the failed backups everything remains untouch as it was taken, even if it's bad and wasting space. Remove it and someone (or a virus) could be overwriting something to cover it's tracks.

                                          Meaning that the rollback deletes everything and then writes over it (essentially.)

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                                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            anyway i guess it is a complicated process 🙂

                                            Actually no, it is rather simple. Often in IT things get confusing when they are simpler, rather than complex. SAN, for example, is super confusing because no one will accept how simplistic it is. They always read into it things that do not exist.

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