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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN
      last edited by

      great this is what i want to know, i will have a licensing issue in the P2V process, i was sure i have this limitation since i don't have the windows key
      in this case i will keep my physical servers, i don't want to have issues with the management
      veeam + physical server = solve all problems

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      • IT-ADMINI
        IT-ADMIN
        last edited by

        wow i feel confortable now, can you imagine that for 2 years now i didn't have any backup plan except for one (daily incremental data backup in the same HD : D---> E)
        now i can store my data in a NAS far away from my file server and furthermore i can even store daily incremental system images of my server, wow very good improvement

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
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          @IT-ADMIN said:

          @dafyre said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          so you told me that if i P2V i must disconnect the P from internet, isn't it ?? otherwise the system will be blacklisted ??

          Completely shut the P off. If the P and V are on at the same time with the same IP address, it will cause network problems.

          yes i know about the IP conflict, i'm talking about the licensing, if both are online windows will detect that there are 2 computers using the same license, isn't it ??

          No, this really isn't an issue. Typically, once a machine is registered, assuming the underlying hardware doesn't change to much, it won't check the license again.

          Here's what I'd do. I'd P2V, then turn off the P, and turn on the V. If the V won't re-authorize, then shut it off and delete it, and turn the P back on. If the V does re-authorize, or not even bother to check, then you are fine, and you and format the P.

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          • IT-ADMINI
            IT-ADMIN
            last edited by

            do you know a P2V tool that do not ask for the key for the V after finishing the P2V ??

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              It has nothing to do with the tool. It's up to Windows to decide if it will ask or not.

              For example, you could replace the motherboard in the server you have now, and it might ask you to re-authorize. It's completely up to Windows.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                It has nothing to do with the tool. It's up to Windows to decide if it will ask or not.

                For example, you could replace the motherboard in the server you have now, and it might ask you to re-authorize. It's completely up to Windows.

                You could add RAM and windows would ask you to re-authorize... or replace a CPU, which did happen to me.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  You asked about restoring your backup onto an identical server, that too could trigger a re-authorization prompt.

                  All those things said, you weren't worried about them yesterday, I wouldn't be worried about them today (and by you I mean your company).

                  I'd do the P2V following the general steps I mentioned above. The worst that happens is you spent some hours and gained the knowledge that it wouldn't work.. .but at best, you've migrated everything to a VM, and freed up a server for something else.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @IT-ADMIN
                    last edited by

                    @IT-ADMIN The worst case scenario is that you P2V, and if it triggers a windows activation on the V, you shut it down and bring the P back up and nothing has changed.

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN @dafyre
                      last edited by

                      @dafyre said:

                      @IT-ADMIN The worst case scenario is that you P2V, and if it triggers a windows activation on the V, you shut it down and bring the P back up and nothing has changed.

                      wow, like usual your suggestion are very awesome, thank you @dafyre 😉

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender every single P2V i have ever done has caused Windows to drop its authentic status and require reactivation. I have never seen it stay activated.

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          You asked about restoring your backup onto an identical server, that too could trigger a re-authorization prompt.

                          All those things said, you weren't worried about them yesterday, I wouldn't be worried about them today (and by you I mean your company).

                          I'd do the P2V following the general steps I mentioned above. The worst that happens is you spent some hours and gained the knowledge that it wouldn't work.. .but at best, you've migrated everything to a VM, and freed up a server for something else.

                          thank you very much for your clarification

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said:

                            @Dashrender every single P2V i have ever done has caused Windows to drop its authentic status and require reactivation. I have never seen it stay activated.

                            OK - I've only done one, about 8 years ago.. so I just don't recall.

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                            • IT-ADMINI
                              IT-ADMIN @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said:

                              @Dashrender every single P2V i have ever done has caused Windows to drop its authentic status and require reactivation. I have never seen it stay activated.

                              i get shocked, my dream to visualize is broken 😞

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @IT-ADMIN
                                last edited by

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                @Dashrender every single P2V i have ever done has caused Windows to drop its authentic status and require reactivation. I have never seen it stay activated.

                                i get shocked, my dream to visualize is broken 😞

                                Are you servers licensed now? I thought they were. I thought it was only your desktop stuff that was not licensed.
                                There is no reason the key should fail to reactivate on the new (virtual) hardware.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
                                  last edited by

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  i get shocked, my dream to visualize is broken 😞

                                  FYI, it's virtualize, not visualize I'm guessing your browser's spell check doesn't know the word. you need to add it.

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                                  • IT-ADMINI
                                    IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    i get shocked, my dream to visualize is broken 😞

                                    FYI, it's virtualize, not visualize I'm guessing your browser's spell check doesn't know the word. you need to add it.

                                    hhhhh yes you are right, my auto-corrector doesn't know virtualize

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                                    • IT-ADMINI
                                      IT-ADMIN @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @Dashrender every single P2V i have ever done has caused Windows to drop its authentic status and require reactivation. I have never seen it stay activated.

                                      i get shocked, my dream to visualize is broken 😞

                                      Are you servers licensed now? I thought they were. I thought it was only your desktop stuff that was not licensed.
                                      There is no reason the key should fail to reactivate on the new (virtual) hardware.

                                      unfortunately i don't have the windows server 2008 R2 key, when i start working in this company i found 2 windows servers that are activated but i don't have the key 😞
                                      so i think there is no chance to activate the V again

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @IT-ADMIN
                                        last edited by JaredBusch

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        @Dashrender every single P2V i have ever done has caused Windows to drop its authentic status and require reactivation. I have never seen it stay activated.

                                        i get shocked, my dream to visualize is broken 😞

                                        Are you servers licensed now? I thought they were. I thought it was only your desktop stuff that was not licensed.
                                        There is no reason the key should fail to reactivate on the new (virtual) hardware.

                                        unfortunately i don't have the windows server 2008 R2 key, when i start working in this company i found 2 windows servers that are activated but i don't have the key 😞
                                        so i think there is no chance to activate the V again

                                        save this as displaykey.vbs and then double click on it.

                                        Set WshShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
                                        MsgBox ConvertToKey(WshShell.RegRead("HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\DigitalProductId"))
                                        
                                        Function ConvertToKey(Key)
                                        Const KeyOffset = 52
                                        i = 28
                                        Chars = "BCDFGHJKMPQRTVWXY2346789"
                                        Do
                                        Cur = 0
                                        x = 14
                                        Do
                                        Cur = Cur * 256
                                        Cur = Key(x + KeyOffset) + Cur
                                        Key(x + KeyOffset) = (Cur \ 24) And 255
                                        Cur = Cur Mod 24
                                        x = x -1
                                        Loop While x >= 0
                                        i = i -1
                                        KeyOutput = Mid(Chars, Cur + 1, 1) & KeyOutput
                                        If (((29 - i) Mod 6) = 0) And (i <> -1) Then
                                        i = i -1
                                        KeyOutput = "-" & KeyOutput
                                        End If
                                        Loop While i >= 0
                                        ConvertToKey = KeyOutput
                                        End Function
                                        
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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          I would still test a P2V in such a way that your current server could still be turned back on in case it does not activate.

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                                          • IT-ADMINI
                                            IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            so i will past this in a text file and save as displaykey.vbs and run it on my server, isn't it ??

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