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    Windows 8.1 to Windows 10: Mistake?

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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse
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      Note: I used the Windows Media Creation tool to create the USB Installer for Windows 10 Pro

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      • gjacobseG
        gjacobse
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        Error I'm getting

        Blocked

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          Did you have Windows 8.1 Pro on the laptop when it upgraded to Windows 10? If not, you can only activate Windows 10 (home edition) for free. You'll have to download the ISO and install again.

          FYI, Windows (starting in Windows 8 I believe) has a new feature called Refresh. It is suppose to perform an in place clean install of the OS, though I'm sure you can't actually change anything about the partitions to have it work.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            I have reinstalled both home and pro machines after accepting the upgrade. Both auto activate after installation is completed. You just choose the options to skip/give code later during the install.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Maybe it is a sign, time for Linux!

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
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                Were you truly running the OEM key when you upgraded?

                My desktop was running a Technet or MS Partner 8.1 key when I originally upgraded from that ot 10. I ran into the same issue when I went to do a fresh install.

                I installed back to 7 (the original key on the box) and then upgraded to 10. Then nuked the system and installed fresh again and it activated just fine.

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                • gjacobseG
                  gjacobse @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said:

                  Were you truly running the OEM key when you upgraded?

                  My desktop was running a Technet or MS Partner 8.1 key when I originally upgraded from that ot 10. I ran into the same issue when I went to do a fresh install.

                  I installed back to 7 (the original key on the box) and then upgraded to 10. Then nuked the system and installed fresh again and it activated just fine.

                  What would you call the key used from ACER, Dell, HP, etc.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
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                    Use SysSpec from Alex Nolan it's a very simple tool that can pull this key for you.

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre
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                      As I understand it Microsoft automagically assigns your computer a new key when you upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 10... If you log in to the machine with your Microsoft account it should retrieve that key for you, assuming you actually logged in to your old machine with a Microsoft account.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @dafyre
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                        @dafyre said:

                        As I understand it Microsoft automagically assigns your computer a new key when you upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 10... If you log in to the machine with your Microsoft account it should retrieve that key for you, assuming you actually logged in to your old machine with a Microsoft account.

                        IT has nothing to do with your account. The machine ID is tied to the hardware.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @gjacobse
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                          @gjacobse said:

                          What would you call the key used from ACER, Dell, HP, etc.

                          That is the OEM key. My question was are you sure your system was using that key prior to the upgrade?

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch That is correct. I think it is stored in your account. I upgraded from 8 to 10, and then wiped, and installed 10 from scratch and it installed without asking me for a key or anything.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @dafyre
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                              @dafyre said:

                              @JaredBusch That is correct. I think it is stored in your account. I upgraded from 8 to 10, and then wiped, and installed 10 from scratch and it installed without asking me for a key or anything.

                              You can give the machine to someone else. They can wipe and reinstall and log in with their account and it will be licensed. The license is tied to the hardware and does not know anything about the account.

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                              • gjacobseG
                                gjacobse @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said:

                                @gjacobse said:

                                What would you call the key used from ACER, Dell, HP, etc.

                                That is the OEM key. My question was are you sure your system was using that key prior to the upgrade?

                                I have no reason to think that the key would have been changed.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  What version of Windows 10 is on it now? what version of Windows 8.1 was on it before?

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender Me? Home Premium and the Win 10 Home Premium edition, I think... I wish they'd take a play out of Apples play book... One Desktop OS without the 10871320487210437 different licensing options.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @dafyre
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                                      @dafyre said:

                                      @Dashrender Me? Home Premium and the Win 10 Home Premium edition, I think... I wish they'd take a play out of Apples play book... One Desktop OS without the 10871320487210437 different licensing options.

                                      I thought there were only three versions of Windows 10. Home, Professional, and Enterprise?

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                                      • nadnerBN
                                        nadnerB @coliver
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                                        @coliver said:

                                        @dafyre said:

                                        @Dashrender Me? Home Premium and the Win 10 Home Premium edition, I think... I wish they'd take a play out of Apples play book... One Desktop OS without the 10871320487210437 different licensing options.

                                        I thought there were only three versions of Windows 10. Home, Professional, and Enterprise?

                                        There are 5. Add Education and IoT to your list 🙂

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @nadnerB
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                                          @nadnerB Yepp... and that is 4 too many.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @nadnerB
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                                            @nadnerB said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @dafyre said:

                                            @Dashrender Me? Home Premium and the Win 10 Home Premium edition, I think... I wish they'd take a play out of Apples play book... One Desktop OS without the 10871320487210437 different licensing options.

                                            I thought there were only three versions of Windows 10. Home, Professional, and Enterprise?

                                            There are 5. Add Education and IoT to your list 🙂

                                            I think there are more because of the smaller than 8 inch screen, but there might not be an actual license difference, only a "i know what size screen I'm installed on, so I know I'm free" portion to the code.. not sure.

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