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    Virtualization Redemption?

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      StorageNinja Vendor @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 There are other "cheap" VMware kits for different purposes (vSphere Robo edition, foundation etc).

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        StorageNinja Vendor @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender Belive SA is required for Exchange/SQL to move hosts if memory serves.

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          scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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          @John-Nicholson said:

          @Dashrender Belive SA is required for Exchange/SQL to move hosts if memory serves.

          That sounds correct.

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            StorageNinja Vendor @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 He said EMR also. Most EMR vendors only support VMware, bare Metal Linux, or AIX (Epic). I haven't seen a EMR vendor officially support Hyper-V.

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              scottalanmiller
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              AIX is RISC, not EPIC 🙂

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                StorageNinja Vendor
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                Funny,

                EPIC is the name of the ERP that Memorial Herman (Houston) uses. Think Texas Children's uses it also. Its one of the most popular platforms out there.

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                  scottalanmiller
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                  Ah, okay. Epic and AIX, not AIX on EPIC 🙂

                  For those wondering, AIX is a RISC UNIX OS whereas HP-UX is an EPIC UNIX OS. Hence the confusion.

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                    hubtechagain
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                    back on topic, and bringing this back from the dead. Let's say i was able to go ahead and just snag ESX Essentials, 3 years of upgrades and support for 3 machines with 2 processors each is only $666 (bad omen?). If i went with essentials, what could i use to do a snap of the original VMs, and then just incremental to my DR server from then on out? does veeam free allow this?

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                      coliver @hubtechagain
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                      @hubtechagain said:

                      back on topic, and bringing this back from the dead. Let's say i was able to go ahead and just snag ESX Essentials, 3 years of upgrades and support for 3 machines with 2 processors each is only $666 (bad omen?). If i went with essentials, what could i use to do a snap of the original VMs, and then just incremental to my DR server from then on out? does veeam free allow this?

                      Essentials has the backup API so Veeam should work fine for it.

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                        Dashrender @coliver
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                        @coliver said:

                        @hubtechagain said:

                        back on topic, and bringing this back from the dead. Let's say i was able to go ahead and just snag ESX Essentials, 3 years of upgrades and support for 3 machines with 2 processors each is only $666 (bad omen?). If i went with essentials, what could i use to do a snap of the original VMs, and then just incremental to my DR server from then on out? does veeam free allow this?

                        Essentials has the backup API so Veeam should work fine for it.

                        But can you capture incrementals with Veeam Free?

                        Unitrends might be better assuming you are under 1.5 TB.

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                          DustinB3403
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                          He's got a 2.18TB RAID 10.

                          No point in gimping him self now.

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                            hubtechagain
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                            but what i'm saying is does the free veeam offer incremental backups, can i schedule them? or will i have to regularly interact with it to keep things current?

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                              coliver @hubtechagain
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                              @hubtechagain said:

                              but what i'm saying is does the free veeam offer incremental backups, can i schedule them? or will i have to regularly interact with it to keep things current?

                              I don't think you can schedule them. I'm pretty sure Veeam free is on-the-fly.

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                                hubtechagain
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                                are there any free/not super expensive options?

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                                  coliver @hubtechagain
                                  last edited by coliver

                                  @hubtechagain said:

                                  are there any free/not super expensive options?

                                  It doesn't look like it is built into the functionality of Veeam Free's GUI. But it looks like Powershell can help you.

                                  http://www.veeam.com/blog/veeam-backup-free-edition-now-with-powershell.html

                                  It should be noted that Veeam Free can't do incremental backups (at least not that I've seen) so every time you ran this it would be a full backup.

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                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Not aware of any free incremental options for that scale on any platform, least of all ESXi.

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                                      Dashrender @hubtechagain
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                                      @hubtechagain said:

                                      are there any free/not super expensive options?

                                      Veeam Essentials is pretty inexpensive $800 or so I think for 3 hosts.

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                                        coliver
                                        last edited by coliver

                                        If I recall correctly Veeam proper really isn't that expensive, Unitrends isn't either may be worth looking into a paid version of both of those.

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                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @hubtechagain said:

                                          are there any free/not super expensive options?

                                          Veeam Essentials is pretty inexpensive $800 or so I think for 3 hosts.

                                          Similar in cost to ESXi Essentials. Presumably well within the reasonable cost threshold if they are happy to pay for ESXi.

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                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            If you move to HyperV you can eliminate all of that cost from VMWare and put that money into the backup solution where the money is needed. All of that money going to VMware seems like just throwing away the resources needed for the actual solution.

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