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    Virtualization Redemption?

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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
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      One license of VMWare Essentials (not plus) will cover all three servers. Then you can use third part migration tools. This would likely be cheaper than the time it would take you to migrate to another Hypervisor.

      It would come don to what the 3rd party tools can do for you. Are those functions enough to handle your replication/backup needs.

      For example, is a 6 socket license of Veeam Essentials something that would give you enough features?

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        StorageNinja Vendor @Alex Sage
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        @anonymous This is not correct. That is the price WITH one year of support. Additional support (And upgrades) are ~1K a year (assuming mission critical 24/7 phone support contract) so comparing that to free anything else is apples/oranges.

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          StorageNinja Vendor @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 There are other "cheap" VMware kits for different purposes (vSphere Robo edition, foundation etc).

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            StorageNinja Vendor @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender Belive SA is required for Exchange/SQL to move hosts if memory serves.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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              @John-Nicholson said:

              @Dashrender Belive SA is required for Exchange/SQL to move hosts if memory serves.

              That sounds correct.

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                StorageNinja Vendor @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 He said EMR also. Most EMR vendors only support VMware, bare Metal Linux, or AIX (Epic). I haven't seen a EMR vendor officially support Hyper-V.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  AIX is RISC, not EPIC 🙂

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                    StorageNinja Vendor
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                    Funny,

                    EPIC is the name of the ERP that Memorial Herman (Houston) uses. Think Texas Children's uses it also. Its one of the most popular platforms out there.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Ah, okay. Epic and AIX, not AIX on EPIC 🙂

                      For those wondering, AIX is a RISC UNIX OS whereas HP-UX is an EPIC UNIX OS. Hence the confusion.

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                        hubtechagain
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                        back on topic, and bringing this back from the dead. Let's say i was able to go ahead and just snag ESX Essentials, 3 years of upgrades and support for 3 machines with 2 processors each is only $666 (bad omen?). If i went with essentials, what could i use to do a snap of the original VMs, and then just incremental to my DR server from then on out? does veeam free allow this?

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @hubtechagain
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                          @hubtechagain said:

                          back on topic, and bringing this back from the dead. Let's say i was able to go ahead and just snag ESX Essentials, 3 years of upgrades and support for 3 machines with 2 processors each is only $666 (bad omen?). If i went with essentials, what could i use to do a snap of the original VMs, and then just incremental to my DR server from then on out? does veeam free allow this?

                          Essentials has the backup API so Veeam should work fine for it.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @coliver
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                            @coliver said:

                            @hubtechagain said:

                            back on topic, and bringing this back from the dead. Let's say i was able to go ahead and just snag ESX Essentials, 3 years of upgrades and support for 3 machines with 2 processors each is only $666 (bad omen?). If i went with essentials, what could i use to do a snap of the original VMs, and then just incremental to my DR server from then on out? does veeam free allow this?

                            Essentials has the backup API so Veeam should work fine for it.

                            But can you capture incrementals with Veeam Free?

                            Unitrends might be better assuming you are under 1.5 TB.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              He's got a 2.18TB RAID 10.

                              No point in gimping him self now.

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                                hubtechagain
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                                but what i'm saying is does the free veeam offer incremental backups, can i schedule them? or will i have to regularly interact with it to keep things current?

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @hubtechagain
                                  last edited by

                                  @hubtechagain said:

                                  but what i'm saying is does the free veeam offer incremental backups, can i schedule them? or will i have to regularly interact with it to keep things current?

                                  I don't think you can schedule them. I'm pretty sure Veeam free is on-the-fly.

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                                    hubtechagain
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                                    are there any free/not super expensive options?

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @hubtechagain
                                      last edited by coliver

                                      @hubtechagain said:

                                      are there any free/not super expensive options?

                                      It doesn't look like it is built into the functionality of Veeam Free's GUI. But it looks like Powershell can help you.

                                      http://www.veeam.com/blog/veeam-backup-free-edition-now-with-powershell.html

                                      It should be noted that Veeam Free can't do incremental backups (at least not that I've seen) so every time you ran this it would be a full backup.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Not aware of any free incremental options for that scale on any platform, least of all ESXi.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @hubtechagain
                                          last edited by

                                          @hubtechagain said:

                                          are there any free/not super expensive options?

                                          Veeam Essentials is pretty inexpensive $800 or so I think for 3 hosts.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver
                                            last edited by coliver

                                            If I recall correctly Veeam proper really isn't that expensive, Unitrends isn't either may be worth looking into a paid version of both of those.

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