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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      In the city you can get a link from L3 if you need something beefier.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Internet is quite stable here too. Stays up through power outages and stays on even in rural areas through storms that would knock out much more built of areas of the US too.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          Internet is quite stable here too. Stays up through power outages and stays on even in rural areas through storms that would knock out much more built of areas of the US too.

          This will probably start another debate... but who owns the infrastructure in Panama? Government or private parties?

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          • gjacobseG
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            I like my privacy,.. I like my internet. I could do without it. But I enjoy listening to Pandora most of the day, watch Netflix and Amazon Prime.

            Could I get away from that yes..

            I'm not into trying to attack some digital service of some place that does something (insert whatever you want here). I find no interest in such. I do however want to be left alone (unlike that call I just got about my student loan - I don't have one,. and I'm on the Federal Do-Not-Call list)... so 'hiding' is something I prefer to do as much as possible

            Am I on some list... Having a DD-214 means that in some regard yes,.. I'm on a list. But I don't 'publish' that fact.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              I believe that most of it is private. Panama has bit ISPs that compete, just like in other private ISP countries.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                I believe that most of it is private. Panama has bit ISPs that compete, just like in other private ISP countries.

                Cool thanks.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  More of what a good Internet country looks like 🙂
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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    What does moving to a country with "good internet connection speeds, but limited ability to track its citizens" even look like?

                    It looks like this...

                    Just because they haven't been caught spying on you, does not mean they are not.

                    Tin foil hattery? Perhaps.

                    Think of what would have been said about that statement before snowden.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                        @MattSpeller said:

                        Just because they haven't been caught spying on you, does not mean they are not.

                        The point is.... they lack the resources to be doing it.

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller for argument's sake, that did not stop the Canadian gov.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                            @MattSpeller said:

                            @scottalanmiller for argument's sake, that did not stop the Canadian gov.

                            Except Canada has tons of resources and is a country more than ten times the size of Panama. Richer and larger equals resources. Also, Canada is a tech country, Panama is a logistics country.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Costa Rica also has great Internet, but also a bit more money for spying on you, I think.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
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                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  What does moving to a country with "good internet connection speeds, but limited ability to track its citizens" even look like?

                                  It looks like this...

                                  Just because they haven't been caught spying on you, does not mean they are not.

                                  Tin foil hattery? Perhaps.

                                  Think of what would have been said about that statement before snowden.

                                  "That they are spying on you of course, but who cares" would've been the response. It's the scale of the spying, not the fact that they're doing it.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    When looking for countries that lack the financial and technical infrastructure to do spying but still have great Internet you definitely get pretty limited. Panama is actually and just coincidentally pretty unique here, I think. Most of Central America lacks the good infrastructure to qualify.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      It's the scale of the spying, not the fact that they're doing it.

                                      Or the quality of it. What the NSA can track vs. what other countries can track differs a lot. Panama may or may not capture all my packets, but what they can do to piece it all back together or store it is not on par with the US (or Canada.)

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        When looking for countries that lack the financial and technical infrastructure to do spying but still have great Internet you definitely get pretty limited. Panama is actually and just coincidentally pretty unique here, I think. Most of Central America lacks the good infrastructure to qualify.

                                        I think that's a tad naive, but without proof either way it's a bit pointless to argue over

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          I think that's a tad naive, but without proof either way it's a bit pointless to argue over

                                          Naive to think which part? They are certainly poor and small. The entire country is only as big as St. Louis. It's a country that lacks money and has almost no technical expertise. Unlike the US or Canada which has it native, all expertise here is imported for IT, often from Columbia and Mexico at great expense. There just isn't money or scale to be able to approach these things like big, rich countries can.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            It doesn't mean that they are not doing it, but it does imply that they can't do it.

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