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      A Former User @Danp
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      @Danp said:

      Thanks, I'll take a look. Do you purchase the themes directly from them or elsewhere?

      Direct. They have a market place.

      http://www.concrete5.org/marketplace/themes

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        scottalanmiller @Danp
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        @Danp said:

        Stuff like NetObjects Fusion and Xara Web Designer?

        I wouldn't think so. Normal web design.

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          Danp @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          I wouldn't think so. Normal web design.

          What, you mean like an html editor?

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            A Former User @Danp
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            @Danp said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            I wouldn't think so. Normal web design.

            What, you mean like an html editor?

            They'd do PHP or similar raw who needs an editor when you have Notepad++. Editoris always make bad code, including Dreamweaver & FrontPage.

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              IRJ
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              I definitely agree with buying a theme for their site. Don't be afraid to spend more on the theme upfront. The higher cost themes generally have more features, and more support.

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              • DanpD
                Danp
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                Thanks for the input thus far. I already have an account with ASO (thanks to the earlier review by @scottalanmiller), so I should be able to load up a site there for testing.

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                  coliver @Danp
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                  @Danp said:

                  Thanks for the input thus far. I already have an account with ASO (thanks to the earlier review by @scottalanmiller), so I should be able to load up a site there for testing.

                  Nice, I think I am going to be setting up a site with them tomorrow.

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                    scottalanmiller @Danp
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                    @Danp said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    I wouldn't think so. Normal web design.

                    What, you mean like an html editor?

                    I'm confused. You are asking for design but then listing tools. What does the tooling matter? I always did web design in a text editor.

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                      scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                      They'd do PHP or similar raw who needs an editor when you have Notepad++. Editoris always make bad code, including Dreamweaver & FrontPage.

                      Those tools seem to mostly be for non-designers who need some hand holding. I don't know of any serious designer that has every used those. Not since Dreamweaver circa 2004. Notepad++, Atom, vi, Sublime or similar are so easy.

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                        Sparkum @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller

                        Agreed, between Notepadd++ the features of CPanel, and even just editing the files from within the site... What more does one need.

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                          A Former User @Sparkum
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                          @Sparkum said:

                          @scottalanmiller

                          Agreed, between Notepadd++ the features of CPanel, and even just editing the files from within the site... What more does one need.

                          I wouldn't use the cpanel editor. I've had it cause issues. It will sometimes put in spaces, corrupt the file, or change the encoding.

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                            Sparkum @A Former User
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                            @thecreativeone91

                            Oh really, guess I've been lucky so far.

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                              scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              @Sparkum said:

                              @scottalanmiller

                              Agreed, between Notepadd++ the features of CPanel, and even just editing the files from within the site... What more does one need.

                              I wouldn't use the cpanel editor. I've had it cause issues. It will sometimes put in spaces, corrupt the file, or change the encoding.

                              Not the cPanel Editor, the additional cPanel Code Editor. It specifically addresses those issues.

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                                A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @thecreativeone91 said:

                                @Sparkum said:

                                @scottalanmiller

                                Agreed, between Notepadd++ the features of CPanel, and even just editing the files from within the site... What more does one need.

                                I wouldn't use the cpanel editor. I've had it cause issues. It will sometimes put in spaces, corrupt the file, or change the encoding.

                                Not the cPanel Editor, the additional cPanel Code Editor. It specifically addresses those issues.

                                But it still buggs out sometimes.. hence why I don't care for it.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Hmmm.... haven't used it much but haven't seen any issues with it. Would be pretty klunky to use for actual code editing, though.

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                                    Danp @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    I'm confused. You are asking for design but then listing tools. What does the tooling matter? I always did web design in a text editor.

                                    I'm just trying to provide some guidance to their non-technical marketing person who currently updates their site with the built-in 1&1 "gui". She's not going to build an entire site using a text editor and PHP.

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                                      scottalanmiller @Danp
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                                      @Danp said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      I'm confused. You are asking for design but then listing tools. What does the tooling matter? I always did web design in a text editor.

                                      I'm just trying to provide some guidance to their non-technical marketing person who currently updates their site with the built-in 1&1 "gui". She's not going to build an entire site using a text editor and PHP.

                                      Ah, that's not really related. If you are hiring a web designer, they do the design. If you want your person to be the designer, you don't hire a designer.

                                      Why are you consider hiring someone if the goal is for the existing person to keep doing it even if she doesn't know how?

                                      I'm confused as to the means and the ends here.

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                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Why does "updating the site" have some relationship to "designing the site?"

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                                          gjacobse @Danp
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                                          @Danp said:

                                          I'm on the board of a local non-profit, and they are wanting to make changes to their website. They currently host with 1&1 and pay $10 / mo for the services with their built-in wysiwyg editor, which they find too restrictive.

                                          I know they could save a few bucks on the hosting, but the real issue is that they need another option for building / maintaining the website. Here's their website if anyone is interested: http://www.arc-gateway.org/. They don't currently sell anything through the site, but that could change in the future.

                                          What alternatives are out there that I can review / recommend to them. Appreciate any input.

                                          Regards, Dan

                                          Non Profit? Hit GrassRoots Non profits can qualify for FREE hosting and one Domain name...

                                          As for Building / Maintaining?

                                          Joomla!
                                          Drupla
                                          Wordpress

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                                            Danp @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Ah, that's not really related. If you are hiring a web designer, they do the design. If you want your person to be the designer, you don't hire a designer.

                                            Agreed.

                                            Why are you consider hiring someone if the goal is for the existing person to keep doing it even if she doesn't know how?

                                            I'm not looking to hire someone, and I'm unsure how you came to that conclusion. I am seeking the community's input on design tools that could be used by the NP to build and maintain their own site.

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