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    Unitrends Redefines "Free" Virtual Backup

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Dashrender said:

      Agreed, I have client that I will be able to move them away from a secondary machine they currently use to backup their VM host with Veeam. Now to see how it handles rotating NAS storage devices.

      In what manner do you wish to rotate them? It's not common to rotate NAS.

      My client refuses to push backups to an offsite over the internet. The cheapest option we found for them 4 years ago was Veeam and several single drive NASs. Each one assigned to a day of the week. They would be rotated offsite daily. It's worked well enough.

      I've really tried to get them to allow a cloud, or even VPN to the owners home based backup (replication actually) of the local backups, but they just don't 'trust the internet.' Even though they use the internet for email and nearly everything else. I stopped fighting them and just found them a solution.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @Dominica
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        @Dominica said:

        @coliver Okay, that's what I was thinking it probably meant, but I'm not always up on the lingo. Like every time @scottalanmiller says "ack" to me I think he's complaining, but he's actually using it as "acknowledge".

        Now that's just funny!

        But it only works because you're techie too, and even then it doesn't really sound like it works well 😉

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Always works at the office 🙂

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          • DominicaD
            Dominica @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            I stopped fighting them and just found them a solution.

            This is a mark of IT maturity. You can't always convince a client to follow your recommendations, and so the "right" way is sometimes just doing what the client wants.

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            • ?
              A Former User @Dominica
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              @Dominica said:

              @Dashrender said:

              I stopped fighting them and just found them a solution.

              This is a mark of IT maturity. You can't always convince a client to follow your recommendations, and so the "right" way is sometimes just doing what the client wants.

              Are you saying @scottalanmiller isn't mature because he doesn't like to give up? 😉

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                @thecreativeone91 she's just saying I'm not mature. No specific reason.

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                • ?
                  A Former User
                  last edited by A Former User

                  Well, I've downloaded it twice just incase it was corrupt.

                  fail.PNG

                  No error information on unitrends side, nothing useful in the ESXi logs. Maybe it doesn't work on FreeESXi 6.0 for somereason.

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                  • ?
                    A Former User
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                    I'm totally tempted to move to Hyper-V just for this.

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
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                      Yep. This will not work on FreeESXi you need a licensed version. It tries to used a licesned feature called vFlash which is why it fails.

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                      • Minion QueenM
                        Minion Queen Banned
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                        Because it is agentless

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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                          @Minion-Queen said:

                          Because it is agentless

                          That's different. This is about the deployment, not the backing up.

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                          • JaguarJ
                            Jaguar @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender No rotating NAS storage for backup storage, but archiving still works fine.

                            The storage devices are now 'stateless' meaning that if the VM is lost the data can be recovered now (a personal battle I fought for several years) so while the storage device cannot be added and removed nimbly bimbly, it does allow people to have 'split' configurations now, utilizing fast DAS for the OS, and slower storage for the backup storage, without worries about them getting desync'd. Allows a lot more flexibility.

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                            • JaguarJ
                              Jaguar @A Former User
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                              @thecreativeone91 Yup, HTML5 🙂

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                              • JaguarJ
                                Jaguar @A Former User
                                last edited by

                                @thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Jaguar
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                                  @Jaguar said:

                                  @thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

                                  what about with an agent? i.e. install an agent into the VM on ESXi Free.

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User @Jaguar
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                                    @Jaguar said:

                                    @thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

                                    It has been in the past. http://go.unitrends.com/unitrends-and-free-esxi You don't get Host level backups is all.

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                                    • JaguarJ
                                      Jaguar
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                                      RE: VMware 6, PLEASE READ THIS KB: http://support.unitrends.com/ikm/questions.php?questionid=1892

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                                      • ?
                                        A Former User @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @Jaguar said:

                                        @thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

                                        what about with an agent? i.e. install an agent into the VM on ESXi Free.

                                        That's how you backuped before. Agentless will not work on free.

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                                        • JaguarJ
                                          Jaguar @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @Jaguar
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                                            @Jaguar said:

                                            @Dashrender No rotating NAS storage for backup storage, but archiving still works fine.

                                            How I have Veeam working:

                                            I've created 5 storage locations, I've created 5 backup jobs, one for each day of the week. Each job points to only one of the storage locations.

                                            Would that work for UEB?

                                            I guess I'll have to dig into the Yellow Belt training to see how archiving works.

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