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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @coliver
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      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu/tough-may-holds-off-brexit-deal-after-irish-furore-idUSKBN1DY17G?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

      I'm curious, why would enforcing the Irish border be that important? They are two "peaceful" states sharing a common border. It's probably one of those "we have to protect all of our borders" thing... Or does this go back to the whole Brexit thing not making a ton of sense.

      Think about the US and Canada. You can't just ignore the border between two countries, it has to be thought out and figured out VERY carefully. Remember, the UK is leaving the EU and the EU is what allows that to be an open border - because they share all information as to who is inside and who can be inside the border. Once the Brexit happens, Ireland could let in people that shouldn't be in the UK and vice versa. And they don't have to tell each other who is there. And you could cross that border to bypass customs and border controls.

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      • coliverC
        coliver @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu/tough-may-holds-off-brexit-deal-after-irish-furore-idUSKBN1DY17G?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

        I'm curious, why would enforcing the Irish border be that important? They are two "peaceful" states sharing a common border. It's probably one of those "we have to protect all of our borders" thing... Or does this go back to the whole Brexit thing not making a ton of sense.

        Think about the US and Canada. You can't just ignore the border between two countries, it has to be thought out and figured out VERY carefully. Remember, the UK is leaving the EU and the EU is what allows that to be an open border - because they share all information as to who is inside and who can be inside the border. Once the Brexit happens, Ireland could let in people that shouldn't be in the UK and vice versa. And they don't have to tell each other who is there. And you could cross that border to bypass customs and border controls.

        That's it. Thanks.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Things that you can do with an open border like that include bypassing all residency requirements and visa requirements for those countries. Arrive in Ireland, cross the border into the UK, stay forever because... you can claim that you've been in Ireland and are just visiting the UK. Or never pay taxes. All kinds of mayhem would occur if you had no way to know who was coming and going in your country.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

            https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu/tough-may-holds-off-brexit-deal-after-irish-furore-idUSKBN1DY17G?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

            I'm curious, why would enforcing the Irish border be that important? They are two "peaceful" states sharing a common border. It's probably one of those "we have to protect all of our borders" thing... Or does this go back to the whole Brexit thing not making a ton of sense.

            Think about the US and Canada. You can't just ignore the border between two countries, it has to be thought out and figured out VERY carefully. Remember, the UK is leaving the EU and the EU is what allows that to be an open border - because they share all information as to who is inside and who can be inside the border. Once the Brexit happens, Ireland could let in people that shouldn't be in the UK and vice versa. And they don't have to tell each other who is there. And you could cross that border to bypass customs and border controls.

            That's it. Thanks.

            There is a semi-open border between the UK and Spain at Gibraltar and it's a well known way to bypass border control and sneak out of Europe if you've overstayed your visa without getting caught.

            I've accidentally "sneaked" into the EU that way. Spain just waives you in if you look confident. No passport stamps, no identity control. It is a tiny crossing point, so the risk is low. But it happens. The Irish border is a few hundred miles of open grassland. You could move armies in and out without being noticed.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
              last edited by

              Open Borders are what we have between States here in the U.S.

              The E.U. is similar but not quite so open.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                Open Borders are what we have between States here in the U.S.

                The E.U. is similar but not quite so open.

                Yes, and only works because of a unified outside border and tranparent internal communications. California and NY share international border control, so once inside, you are allowed to be anywhere.

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                • mlnewsM
                  mlnews
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                  https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/12/infiniti-debuts-breakthrough-engine-technology-in-new-qx50/

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                  • black3dynamiteB
                    black3dynamite
                    last edited by black3dynamite

                    Russia Banned From Winter Olympics by I.O.C.
                    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/sports/olympics/ioc-russia-winter-olympics.html

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                    • mlnewsM
                      mlnews
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                      How the Apollo Fire Propelled NASA to the Moon

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                      • RojoLocoR
                        RojoLoco @black3dynamite
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                        @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        Russia Banned From Winter Olympics by I.O.C.
                        https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/sports/olympics/ioc-russia-winter-olympics.html

                        No worries, the Orange Idiot-In-Chief will make sure his Russian homies get to compete and win lots of medals... banned supplements rule be damned.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                            Again?

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                              ****, the best screen I have to watch youtube on is the TV. Of course I use a fire-tv box with it 😞

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                                Again?

                                Again 😞

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Thankfully we use Nvidia gear, the one thing that seems to actually work.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                                    Again?

                                    Again 😞

                                    I guess it wasn’t again, it was the Amazon Show last time.

                                    Sux I just setup at tv that only has a Amazon TV on it.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                                      Just got this notice... Not happy about it.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                                        Just got this notice... Not happy about it.

                                        Time for a Roku.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-will-pull-youtube-support-from-amazon-fire-tvs-in-2018/

                                          Just got this notice... Not happy about it.

                                          Time for a Roku.

                                          I've got one. The fire stick is just that much faster and easier to use.

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                                          • momurdaM
                                            momurda
                                            last edited by momurda

                                            Wonder why Amazon wont play nice with Google products and services.
                                            If the google person's quote is accurate that is.
                                            They two companies dont even really compete except for those stupid g-man sponsored listening devices, Home and Alexa.
                                            Prime and Youtube are sort of competitors. I havent watched youtube in years excpet for the odd tutorial video. I watch Prime every day.
                                            Just dont see why the two cant get along and make gobs more money.
                                            This will probably hurt Amazon more than google.

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