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    • dbeatoD
      dbeato @EddieJennings
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      @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

      And I work for an Healthcare provider!

      My mother's worked for a hospital forever, and for years they had their own HMO (basically utilizing all of the area healthcare providers). I remember it being awesome (and reasonably priced), though, I'm not sure if it exists anymore.

      HMO exists but with terrible coverage, but it is the reasonably priced. High deductibles is what kills it.

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      • dbeatoD
        dbeato @dbeato
        last edited by

        @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

        And I work for an Healthcare provider!

        My mother's worked for a hospital forever, and for years they had their own HMO (basically utilizing all of the area healthcare providers). I remember it being awesome (and reasonably priced), though, I'm not sure if it exists anymore.

        HMO exists but with terrible coverage, but it is the reasonably priced. High deductibles is what kills it.

        Although with HMO you only can go to your indicated provider and referrals from that provider.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @dbeato
          last edited by

          @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

          And I work for an Healthcare provider!

          My mother's worked for a hospital forever, and for years they had their own HMO (basically utilizing all of the area healthcare providers). I remember it being awesome (and reasonably priced), though, I'm not sure if it exists anymore.

          HMO exists but with terrible coverage, but it is the reasonably priced. High deductibles is what kills it.

          Does that look reasonably priced?

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @dbeato
            last edited by

            @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

            Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.

            I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.

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            • dbeatoD
              dbeato @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

              Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.

              I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.

              Correct!

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              • dbeatoD
                dbeato @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

                And I work for an Healthcare provider!

                My mother's worked for a hospital forever, and for years they had their own HMO (basically utilizing all of the area healthcare providers). I remember it being awesome (and reasonably priced), though, I'm not sure if it exists anymore.

                HMO exists but with terrible coverage, but it is the reasonably priced. High deductibles is what kills it.

                Does that look reasonably priced?

                Not it is not! I am paying about $1,200 amount right now with that type of deductible...

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @dbeato
                  last edited by

                  @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

                  Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.

                  I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.

                  Correct!

                  And the plan I had from 2010 until the ACA forced it out was better than the Gold plans in the ACA.

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato @dbeato
                    last edited by

                    @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

                    And I work for an Healthcare provider!

                    My mother's worked for a hospital forever, and for years they had their own HMO (basically utilizing all of the area healthcare providers). I remember it being awesome (and reasonably priced), though, I'm not sure if it exists anymore.

                    HMO exists but with terrible coverage, but it is the reasonably priced. High deductibles is what kills it.

                    Does that look reasonably priced?

                    Not it is not! I am paying about $1,200 amount right now with that type of deductible...

                    And that's because my kids are on NJ Family care.

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                    • EddieJenningsE
                      EddieJennings
                      last edited by

                      In my opinion, the ACA and [insert other ideas that deal with trying to get more folks with health insurance coverage] are trying to solve the wrong problem. The problem is the cost of healthcare, not lack of insurance coverage.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

                        Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.

                        I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.

                        Why do you go direct rather than through your employer? It's insanely cheaper doing it that way, and probably much better plans.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          It's insanely cheaper doing it that way

                          You obviously know nothing about how healthcare plans work.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

                            Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.

                            I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.

                            Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?

                            Just, really? WTF

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                            • EddieJenningsE
                              EddieJennings @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

                              Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.

                              I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.

                              Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?

                              Just, really? WTF

                              It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @EddieJennings
                                last edited by

                                @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

                                Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.

                                I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.

                                Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?

                                Just, really? WTF

                                It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.

                                FFS, it is not a secret where I work or how many people work here. I've said it many times.

                                You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.

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                                • EddieJenningsE
                                  EddieJennings @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by EddieJennings

                                  @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

                                  Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.

                                  I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.

                                  Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?

                                  Just, really? WTF

                                  It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.

                                  FFS, it is not a secret where I work or how many people work here. I've said it many times.

                                  You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.

                                  Actually, I had no idea your employer only had 4 full time people. πŸ˜›

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @EddieJennings
                                    last edited by

                                    @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

                                    Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.

                                    I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.

                                    Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?

                                    Just, really? WTF

                                    It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.

                                    FFS, it is not a secret where I work or how many people work here. I've said it many times.

                                    You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.

                                    Actually, I had no idea your employer only had 4 full time people. πŸ˜›

                                    Well we do.

                                    And I am paid a nice hourly rate to compensate for buying my own healthcare. But that was comparative to January of 2010. I've had rate increases ($1.50 (little north of 3%) this year in fact). But it does not keep pace with this stupid ass shit.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      As I said, above, I can pay the penalty of $2085 and come out with more than $10,000 in savings to book towards health care costs.

                                      Even with two children we are really looking at this.

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                                      • EddieJenningsE
                                        EddieJennings @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

                                        Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.

                                        I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.

                                        Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?

                                        Just, really? WTF

                                        It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.

                                        FFS, it is not a secret where I work or how many people work here. I've said it many times.

                                        You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.

                                        Actually, I had no idea your employer only had 4 full time people. πŸ˜›

                                        Well we do.

                                        And I am paid a nice hourly rate to compensate for buying my own healthcare. But that was comparative to January of 2010. I've had rate increases ($1.50 (little north of 3%) this year in fact). But it does not keep pace with this stupid ass shit.

                                        Now your situation makes sense.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          It's insanely cheaper doing it that way

                                          You obviously know nothing about how healthcare plans work.

                                          Well, I know that my employer pays an F ton, and that I pay less than $300 a month.

                                          @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.

                                          I know who your employer is, I didn't know the size or how employers go about insurance. I didn't know they choose not to take care of insurance costs for employees. I've seen some that do, even with small size. No way of knowing for sure, I've never worked for your employer.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @EddieJennings
                                            last edited by

                                            @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @dbeato Sorry to read 😞 But I cannot say I'm surprised.

                                            Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.

                                            I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.

                                            Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?

                                            Just, really? WTF

                                            It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.

                                            FFS, it is not a secret where I work or how many people work here. I've said it many times.

                                            You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.

                                            Actually, I had no idea your employer only had 4 full time people. πŸ˜›

                                            Well we do.

                                            And I am paid a nice hourly rate to compensate for buying my own healthcare. But that was comparative to January of 2010. I've had rate increases ($1.50 (little north of 3%) this year in fact). But it does not keep pace with this stupid ass shit.

                                            Now your situation makes sense.

                                            Yeah, now that we know. I guess sometimes we should read minds...

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