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      https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/scientists-unlocked-the-secret-of-how-these-ultra-black-fish-absorb-light/

      Scientists unlocked the secret of how these ultrablack fish absorb light

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        @nadnerB said in Non-IT News Thread:

        https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/scientists-unlocked-the-secret-of-how-these-ultra-black-fish-absorb-light/

        Scientists unlocked the secret of how these ultrablack fish absorb light

        Too Cool!! Nature is like, "silly human, you made something new, that's cute".

        DAMN Nature, You scary!!

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        • mlnewsM
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          Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine triggers immune response

          A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.
          Trials involving 1,077 people showed the injection led to them making antibodies and T-cells that can fight coronavirus. The findings are hugely promising, but it is still too soon to know if this is enough to offer protection and larger trials are under way. The UK has already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine. The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed. It is made from a genetically engineered virus that causes the common cold in chimpanzees. It has been heavily modified, first so it cannot cause infections in people and also to make it "look" more like coronavirus.

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          • ObsolesceO
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            @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

            Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine triggers immune response

            A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.
            Trials involving 1,077 people showed the injection led to them making antibodies and T-cells that can fight coronavirus. The findings are hugely promising, but it is still too soon to know if this is enough to offer protection and larger trials are under way. The UK has already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine. The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed. It is made from a genetically engineered virus that causes the common cold in chimpanzees. It has been heavily modified, first so it cannot cause infections in people and also to make it "look" more like coronavirus.

            Maybe if I would end up dead from COVID-19, then I'd give it a try.

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            • GreyG
              Grey @Obsolesce
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              @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

              Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine triggers immune response

              A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.
              Trials involving 1,077 people showed the injection led to them making antibodies and T-cells that can fight coronavirus. The findings are hugely promising, but it is still too soon to know if this is enough to offer protection and larger trials are under way. The UK has already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine. The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed. It is made from a genetically engineered virus that causes the common cold in chimpanzees. It has been heavily modified, first so it cannot cause infections in people and also to make it "look" more like coronavirus.

              Maybe if I would end up dead from COVID-19, then I'd give it a try.

              If zombies were attacking, you'd be the guy rushing out to get bitten and claiming that zombies weren't real even as they were avoiding you as part of their new plan to eat only healthy brains.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @Obsolesce
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                @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine triggers immune response

                A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.
                Trials involving 1,077 people showed the injection led to them making antibodies and T-cells that can fight coronavirus. The findings are hugely promising, but it is still too soon to know if this is enough to offer protection and larger trials are under way. The UK has already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine. The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed. It is made from a genetically engineered virus that causes the common cold in chimpanzees. It has been heavily modified, first so it cannot cause infections in people and also to make it "look" more like coronavirus.

                Maybe if I would end up dead from COVID-19, then I'd give it a try.

                Exactly - that's the problem with any vaccine they will come out with in the next two years, maybe even four. They are rushing it so much - no way in hell I'm taking it until something like 1 million people have, and has less than a .01% bad effect.

                How did we get past the 1918 flu? @Grey ?

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                • GreyG
                  Grey @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine triggers immune response

                  A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.
                  Trials involving 1,077 people showed the injection led to them making antibodies and T-cells that can fight coronavirus. The findings are hugely promising, but it is still too soon to know if this is enough to offer protection and larger trials are under way. The UK has already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine. The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed. It is made from a genetically engineered virus that causes the common cold in chimpanzees. It has been heavily modified, first so it cannot cause infections in people and also to make it "look" more like coronavirus.

                  Maybe if I would end up dead from COVID-19, then I'd give it a try.

                  Exactly - that's the problem with any vaccine they will come out with in the next two years, maybe even four. They are rushing it so much - no way in hell I'm taking it until something like 1 million people have, and has less than a .01% bad effect.

                  How did we get past the 1918 flu? @Grey ?

                  How much has science advanced and technology changed in a hundred years? How much money is being funneled to allow scientists to focus on the problem? How many of those people are working on it now vs. working on the 1918 flu? Yes, the older flu took 90 years to get a vaccine, and how many were working on that for the entire span? How many anti-vaxxers will it take to fill up a graveyard when they deny science and valid research?

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @Grey
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                    @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine triggers immune response

                    A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.
                    Trials involving 1,077 people showed the injection led to them making antibodies and T-cells that can fight coronavirus. The findings are hugely promising, but it is still too soon to know if this is enough to offer protection and larger trials are under way. The UK has already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine. The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed. It is made from a genetically engineered virus that causes the common cold in chimpanzees. It has been heavily modified, first so it cannot cause infections in people and also to make it "look" more like coronavirus.

                    Maybe if I would end up dead from COVID-19, then I'd give it a try.

                    If zombies were attacking, you'd be the guy rushing out to get bitten and claiming that zombies weren't real even as they were avoiding you as part of their new plan to eat only healthy brains.

                    LOL yeah that's the same thing, genius.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @Grey
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                      @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine triggers immune response

                      A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.
                      Trials involving 1,077 people showed the injection led to them making antibodies and T-cells that can fight coronavirus. The findings are hugely promising, but it is still too soon to know if this is enough to offer protection and larger trials are under way. The UK has already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine. The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed. It is made from a genetically engineered virus that causes the common cold in chimpanzees. It has been heavily modified, first so it cannot cause infections in people and also to make it "look" more like coronavirus.

                      Maybe if I would end up dead from COVID-19, then I'd give it a try.

                      Exactly - that's the problem with any vaccine they will come out with in the next two years, maybe even four. They are rushing it so much - no way in hell I'm taking it until something like 1 million people have, and has less than a .01% bad effect.

                      How did we get past the 1918 flu? @Grey ?

                      How much has science advanced and technology changed in a hundred years? How much money is being funneled to allow scientists to focus on the problem? How many of those people are working on it now vs. working on the 1918 flu? Yes, the older flu took 90 years to get a vaccine, and how many were working on that for the entire span? How many anti-vaxxers will it take to fill up a graveyard when they deny science and valid research?

                      Don't get me wrong - there is definitely valid research out there - but finding it is practically impossible today.
                      Just look at the hospitals, etc reporting huge number of Covid cases over things that are almost certainly not covid related.
                      It's a bloody money game, with your life in the balance.

                      The vaccines of yester-year seem infinitely safer than the drugs they continue to pump out today. The FDA is nothing more than a shill of the pharmaceutical companies showing a faint vein of care for the public good.

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                      • GreyG
                        Grey @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine triggers immune response

                        A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.
                        Trials involving 1,077 people showed the injection led to them making antibodies and T-cells that can fight coronavirus. The findings are hugely promising, but it is still too soon to know if this is enough to offer protection and larger trials are under way. The UK has already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine. The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed. It is made from a genetically engineered virus that causes the common cold in chimpanzees. It has been heavily modified, first so it cannot cause infections in people and also to make it "look" more like coronavirus.

                        Maybe if I would end up dead from COVID-19, then I'd give it a try.

                        Exactly - that's the problem with any vaccine they will come out with in the next two years, maybe even four. They are rushing it so much - no way in hell I'm taking it until something like 1 million people have, and has less than a .01% bad effect.

                        How did we get past the 1918 flu? @Grey ?

                        How much has science advanced and technology changed in a hundred years? How much money is being funneled to allow scientists to focus on the problem? How many of those people are working on it now vs. working on the 1918 flu? Yes, the older flu took 90 years to get a vaccine, and how many were working on that for the entire span? How many anti-vaxxers will it take to fill up a graveyard when they deny science and valid research?

                        Don't get me wrong - there is definitely valid research out there - but finding it is practically impossible today.
                        Just look at the hospitals, etc reporting huge number of Covid cases over things that are almost certainly not covid related.
                        It's a bloody money game, with your life in the balance.

                        The vaccines of yester-year seem infinitely safer than the drugs they continue to pump out today. The FDA is nothing more than a shill of the pharmaceutical companies showing a faint vein of care for the public good.

                        If a lifeguard tells you, "Don't go swimming, there's a shark," would you ignore them just because you don't see a fin? Because you're doing exactly that. Ignoring the valid experts in their field because you saw a Karen post on facebook and now you won't wear a mask, or you wear it under your chin in the false belief that you can't breathe.

                        I bet you love hearing your IT users ignore your advice.

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                        • GreyG
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                            Obsolesce @Grey
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                            @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine triggers immune response

                            A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.
                            Trials involving 1,077 people showed the injection led to them making antibodies and T-cells that can fight coronavirus. The findings are hugely promising, but it is still too soon to know if this is enough to offer protection and larger trials are under way. The UK has already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine. The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed. It is made from a genetically engineered virus that causes the common cold in chimpanzees. It has been heavily modified, first so it cannot cause infections in people and also to make it "look" more like coronavirus.

                            Maybe if I would end up dead from COVID-19, then I'd give it a try.

                            Exactly - that's the problem with any vaccine they will come out with in the next two years, maybe even four. They are rushing it so much - no way in hell I'm taking it until something like 1 million people have, and has less than a .01% bad effect.

                            How did we get past the 1918 flu? @Grey ?

                            How much has science advanced and technology changed in a hundred years? How much money is being funneled to allow scientists to focus on the problem? How many of those people are working on it now vs. working on the 1918 flu? Yes, the older flu took 90 years to get a vaccine, and how many were working on that for the entire span? How many anti-vaxxers will it take to fill up a graveyard when they deny science and valid research?

                            Don't get me wrong - there is definitely valid research out there - but finding it is practically impossible today.
                            Just look at the hospitals, etc reporting huge number of Covid cases over things that are almost certainly not covid related.
                            It's a bloody money game, with your life in the balance.

                            The vaccines of yester-year seem infinitely safer than the drugs they continue to pump out today. The FDA is nothing more than a shill of the pharmaceutical companies showing a faint vein of care for the public good.

                            If a lifeguard tells you, "Don't go swimming, there's a shark," would you ignore them just because you don't see a fin? Because you're doing exactly that. Ignoring the valid experts in their field because you saw a Karen post on facebook and now you won't wear a mask, or you wear it under your chin in the false belief that you can't breathe.

                            I bet you love hearing your IT users ignore your advice.

                            Again, another terrible analogy, and not even the discussed point.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @Grey
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                              @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine triggers immune response

                              A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.
                              Trials involving 1,077 people showed the injection led to them making antibodies and T-cells that can fight coronavirus. The findings are hugely promising, but it is still too soon to know if this is enough to offer protection and larger trials are under way. The UK has already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine. The vaccine - called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 - is being developed at unprecedented speed. It is made from a genetically engineered virus that causes the common cold in chimpanzees. It has been heavily modified, first so it cannot cause infections in people and also to make it "look" more like coronavirus.

                              Maybe if I would end up dead from COVID-19, then I'd give it a try.

                              Exactly - that's the problem with any vaccine they will come out with in the next two years, maybe even four. They are rushing it so much - no way in hell I'm taking it until something like 1 million people have, and has less than a .01% bad effect.

                              How did we get past the 1918 flu? @Grey ?

                              How much has science advanced and technology changed in a hundred years? How much money is being funneled to allow scientists to focus on the problem? How many of those people are working on it now vs. working on the 1918 flu? Yes, the older flu took 90 years to get a vaccine, and how many were working on that for the entire span? How many anti-vaxxers will it take to fill up a graveyard when they deny science and valid research?

                              Don't get me wrong - there is definitely valid research out there - but finding it is practically impossible today.
                              Just look at the hospitals, etc reporting huge number of Covid cases over things that are almost certainly not covid related.
                              It's a bloody money game, with your life in the balance.

                              The vaccines of yester-year seem infinitely safer than the drugs they continue to pump out today. The FDA is nothing more than a shill of the pharmaceutical companies showing a faint vein of care for the public good.

                              If a lifeguard tells you, "Don't go swimming, there's a shark," would you ignore them just because you don't see a fin? Because you're doing exactly that. Ignoring the valid experts in their field because you saw a Karen post on facebook and now you won't wear a mask, or you wear it under your chin in the false belief that you can't breathe.

                              I bet you love hearing your IT users ignore your advice.

                              No I'm not - if you want to go the way of the shark/lifeguard example, it's more like there are 10,000 lifeguards, all telling you something different, some of them provably wrong/lieing, leaving you in a lurch of what to believe.

                              You want a better example - you go to a doctor, he tells you you have cancer and need abc treatment, you go for a second opinion and that doctor tells you you don't have a cancer - now what? Yep, time for Doctor 3 - and no matter what opinion he gives you, are you really going to trust it? meaning you'll likely want opinion 4 and 5 and perhaps more.

                              most people have just turned to name calling in this thread instead of real discussion. I can't speak for anyone else - I wear a mask when I go out in public, it's a minor inconvience for me, and if it really can help someone else, meh, I'm willing to tolerate it - to a point... currently that point is about one year, beyond that - probably not. I don't want to live in a bubble, the world has had epidemics before, sadly millions died, and it will happen again. it's the circle of life. it's not personal.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @Grey
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                                @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

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                                And again - completely not on point. There is Zero scientific argument that you'll die if you get radiation poisoning from some place like Chernobyl. There is no comparison to Covid, not even in the same game.

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                                  Coronavirus: EU leaders reach recovery deal after marathon summit

                                  EU leaders have struck a deal on a huge post-coronavirus recovery package following a fourth night of talks.
                                  It involves €750bn (£677bn; $859bn) in grants and loans to counter the impact of the pandemic in the 27-member bloc. The talks saw a split between nations hardest hit by the virus and so-called "frugal" members concerned about costs. It is the biggest joint borrowing ever agreed by the EU. Summit chairman Charles Michel said it was a "pivotal moment" for Europe. The deal centres on a €390bn programme of grants to member states hardest hit by the pandemic. Italy and Spain are expected to be the main recipients. A further €360bn in low-interest loans will be available to members of the bloc. The package will allow members to maintain spending in the aftermath of lockdowns that badly affected public finances.

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                                    Ukraine: Gunman holds 20 hostages on bus in Lutsk

                                    Police in Ukraine are involved in a tense stand-off with an armed man who has taken about 20 people hostage on a bus in the western city of Lutsk.
                                    Officers said they had come under fire and a grenade was thrown, although it did not explode. The hostages are said to be unharmed. The man has been named by police as Maksym Kryvosh, 44, from Russia who has previous convictions. He is said to be demanding that senior politicians state they are terrorists. Interior Minister Arsen Avakov is leading negotiations with the hostage-taker. He said the hostages, who have been on the bus for several hours, were well and the authorities were doing everything they could to resolve the crisis quickly and peacefully. He denied earlier reports that Kryvosh had undergone psychiatric treatment.

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                                      https://dealbreaker.com/2020/07/bridgewater-arbitration-ruling

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                                        UK and US say Russia fired a satellite weapon in space

                                        The UK and US have accused Russia of launching a weapon-like projectile from a satellite in space.
                                        In a statement, the head of the UK's space directorate said: "We are concerned by the manner in which Russia tested one of its satellites by launching a projectile with the characteristics of a weapon." The statement said actions like this "threaten the peaceful use of space". The US has previously raised concerns about this Russian satellite. In his statement, Air Vice Marshal Harvey Smyth, head of the UK's space directorate, said: "Actions like this threaten the peaceful use of space and risk causing debris that could pose a threat to satellites and the space systems on which the world depends.

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                                          @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          UK and US say Russia fired a satellite weapon in space

                                          The UK and US have accused Russia of launching a weapon-like projectile from a satellite in space.
                                          In a statement, the head of the UK's space directorate said: "We are concerned by the manner in which Russia tested one of its satellites by launching a projectile with the characteristics of a weapon." The statement said actions like this "threaten the peaceful use of space". The US has previously raised concerns about this Russian satellite. In his statement, Air Vice Marshal Harvey Smyth, head of the UK's space directorate, said: "Actions like this threaten the peaceful use of space and risk causing debris that could pose a threat to satellites and the space systems on which the world depends.

                                          https://www.netflix.com/title/81021929

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                                            @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            UK and US say Russia fired a satellite weapon in space

                                            The UK and US have accused Russia of launching a weapon-like projectile from a satellite in space.
                                            In a statement, the head of the UK's space directorate said: "We are concerned by the manner in which Russia tested one of its satellites by launching a projectile with the characteristics of a weapon." The statement said actions like this "threaten the peaceful use of space". The US has previously raised concerns about this Russian satellite. In his statement, Air Vice Marshal Harvey Smyth, head of the UK's space directorate, said: "Actions like this threaten the peaceful use of space and risk causing debris that could pose a threat to satellites and the space systems on which the world depends.

                                            Trump allowed the US Intelligence agencies to accuse* Papa Putin of doing something bad?

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