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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      WD's move to use color coded drives was brilliant. They made drive buying so much easier for the SMB segment. You can easily tell someone that they need Red, Green or Black drives and everyone understands, even if they don't understand the differences.

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        @scottalanmiller said:

        WD's move to use color coded drives was brilliant. They made drive buying so much easier for the SMB segment. You can easily tell someone that they need Red, Green or Black drives and everyone understands, even if they don't understand the differences.

        Yet somehow someone ends up putting Green Drive in a server where they think they need 10GB throughput for CAD, if I recall from Spiceworks.

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          scottalanmiller @A Former User
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          @thecreativeone91 said:

          Yet somehow someone ends up putting Green Drive in a server where they think they need 10GB throughput for CAD, if I recall from Spiceworks.

          Well at some point nothing is going to protect you from yourself. Safeguards can only go so far.

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          • MattSpellerM
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            Whole fleet of WD Red's at work here, they're quite nice so far. Good throughput on the NAS even in RAID5

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              scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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              @MattSpeller said:

              Whole fleet of WD Red's at work here, they're quite nice so far. Good throughput on the NAS even in RAID5

              We have several WD Greens here (Reds without TLER). They have been great. Two more just arrived, in fact.

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                MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller Pretty sure TLER is responsible for the so far success we've had despite the odds

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                  @MattSpeller said:

                  @scottalanmiller Pretty sure TLER is responsible for the so far success we've had despite the odds

                  It actually does very little. Only helps in very specific timing situations. I've never seen a situation with the Greens where having been Red would have mattered.

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller very interesting, thank you!

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                    • scottalanmillerS
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                      Not that I would use Greens instead of Reds in your case! Not saying that. Just saying that TLER rarely helps. But it does sometimes. DAC is a horrible thing to experience and TLER is about preventing DAC.

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                        JLivens
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                        They often have good posts about drive reliability although they use consumer drives which are very different from the enterprise drives that most storage vendors ship.

                        On a side note, I worked at HP during the Thailand flooding and can tell you that the hard drive issues were real.  HD prices were increasing and we could not get the quantities we needed.  I saw shortages that impacted our ship first hand.

                        Given all these challenges it is no surprise that failure rates would go up for consumer drives.  The HD companies were struggling to fill orders and they were trying to do everything they could to increase volumes. It is likely that these pressures could lead to more aggressive testing and a potential decrease in quality. Consumer drives would likely be the ones that were most directly impacted since they are typically the lowest quality.

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