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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      What is the output of netstat -tulpn?

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      • Mike RalstonM
        Mike Ralston
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        Alright, plugins are just being a royal pain. Are we up for a vanilla server? I can throw one up with a new world in 5 minutes, just takes a while to input all the command arguments to get it to properly use more than 8GB of RAM and such.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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          @Mike-Ralston said:

          Alright, plugins are just being a royal pain. Are we up for a vanilla server? I can throw one up with a new world in 5 minutes, just takes a while to input all the command arguments to get it to properly use more than 8GB of RAM and such.

          It's only got 1GB of RAM, last I knew.

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          • Mike RalstonM
            Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
            last edited by Mike Ralston

            @scottalanmiller I can make mine run 32GB, but it won't properly use more than that.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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              @Mike-Ralston said:

              @scottalanmiller I can make mine run 32GB, but it won't properly use more than that.

              Sure, yours. But the one in question is an instance with only 1GB of RAM on the server. It can't use more than the system has or it will swap and with the IO issues, that would just cripple it.

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              • Mike RalstonM
                Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
                last edited by Mike Ralston

                @scottalanmiller Oh, I mean hosting it here. If you want to keep the world, etc. as well, just zip it and send it to me. I've got a lot more processing power here. You /should/ have 512MB of RAM for every player on the server for it to run correctly without massive lag spikes.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
                  last edited by

                  @Mike-Ralston said:

                  @scottalanmiller Oh, I mean hosting it here. If you want to keep the world, etc. as well, just zip it and send it to me. I've got a lot more processing power here. You /should/ have 512MB of RAM for every player on the server for it to run correctly without massive lag spikes.

                  This whole thread is about CloudatCost providing a Minecraft server for the community that they were asking if someone wanted to manage now that Aaron isn't interested.

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                  • C
                    Carnival Boy
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                    Hey, if Mike wants to host and manage it on a beefy server, I'm not complaining.

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                    • Mike RalstonM
                      Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller Oh, my bad. Didn't read into it enough I guess, sorry. Shall I start another thread for another server, then?

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                        A Former User @Mike Ralston
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                        @Mike-Ralston said:

                        @scottalanmiller Oh, I mean hosting it here. If you want to keep the world, etc. as well, just zip it and send it to me. I've got a lot more processing power here. You /should/ have 512MB of RAM for every player on the server for it to run correctly without massive lag spikes.

                        Yeah. I'd say zip it up and send him what's been done. There's major jumpiness with the one we have. It will "go back" up to 30 seconds on you.

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                        • Mike RalstonM
                          Mike Ralston @A Former User
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                          @scottalanmiller My bad, I misunderstood what was going on here. They want help with managing the existing server. That I can do!

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                            Yeah. I'd say zip it up and send him what's been done. There's major jumpiness with the one we have. It will "go back" up to 30 seconds on you.

                            So weird, I wonder what can cause that. Has anyone seen MC talk about that issue?

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                              A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              Yeah. I'd say zip it up and send him what's been done. There's major jumpiness with the one we have. It will "go back" up to 30 seconds on you.

                              So weird, I wonder what can cause that. Has anyone seen MC talk about that issue?

                              From what @Mike-Ralston Said it's from the ram. But it sounds like he knows the most about it so maybe he can fix it.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                I'm not surprised that it is RAM related, just wondering how in the game causes it to see low RAM as a "roll back the time window" thing.

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                                  A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  I'm not surprised that it is RAM related, just wondering how in the game causes it to see low RAM as a "roll back the time window" thing.

                                  It might do the actions locally then upload to the server, and then redownload from the server data at a set period.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                    @thecreativeone91 said:

                                    It might do the actions locally then upload to the server, and then redownload from the server data at a set period.

                                    Good thinking, that makes more sense.

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                                    • Mike RalstonM
                                      Mike Ralston @A Former User
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                                      @thecreativeone91 And when you don't have enough RAM, it doesn't have enough space to cache all the data, which is what it does normally. And it's from that cache that the world saves from. So it will cram in what it can, that's changed since the last save, and everything else will get chopped off. It's designed to do this as seamlessly as possible, though, so it will approximate and not do horrible things to your map 😛

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        My guess is that a much larger instance is going to be needed for an MC server, especially given that IO is very slow. Much much RAM is typical in a small MC server?

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver
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                                          I run a modded MC server with 8GB of RAM right now I wish I could throw more at it. Generally I can get 3-5 people on it before things start to get terrible. Granted I have upwards of 200 mods installed.

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                                          • Mike RalstonM
                                            Mike Ralston @coliver
                                            last edited by Mike Ralston

                                            @coliver Mods do require more RAM by a bit. If a vanilla server runs fine with 8GB, and say, 10 people, I would recommend 12GB if you're gonna add mods and still have 10 people. @scottalanmiller The typical vanilla server should have 4GB just for running the server itself, and then 512MB for every person on the server, as a minimum for smooth and stable performance.
                                            I know back in 1.3.7, it used to not even boot the server if you had any less than 2GB allotted.

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