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      Carnival Boy
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      Chrome remote desktop doesn't use standard Microsoft RDP, so you need to install separate software in the PC you want to remote onto. It requires a bit of firewall configuration as well.

      The first one looks promising though. It says it's "The only true Microsoft Remote Desktop app for the Chrome browser." so maybe there is one, and only one? I will give it a try.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        There is definitely RDP for ChromeBox, just not sure that I got the right links.

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          Carnival Boy
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          Keep looking Scott! I originally used 2X RDP, which I think worked great (unless I dreamt it), but now doesn't work at all and isn't listed anywhere as an available app. Hence my use of the term "reliable".

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            coliver
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            https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/2x-client-for-2x-ras/nfkkcalpbgmfhnendooplbkmpfplmhga?hl=en does this work? I has this in the past. Of course we use the 2X Application Gateway at work and this won't allow you to do SSL connections.

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              scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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              @Carnival-Boy said:

              Keep looking Scott! I originally used 2X RDP, which I think worked great (unless I dreamt it), but now doesn't work at all and isn't listed anywhere as an available app. Hence my use of the term "reliable".

              It came up in my search.

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                Carnival Boy @coliver
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                @coliver said:

                https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/2x-client-for-2x-ras/nfkkcalpbgmfhnendooplbkmpfplmhga?hl=en does this work? I has this in the past. Of course we use the 2X Application Gateway at work and this won't allow you to do SSL connections.

                No, from the blurb on that page "2X Client for 2X RAS does not support standard Microsoft RDP connection."

                I'm sure it did recently though, as I'm sure that is what I was using.

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                  coliver @Carnival Boy
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                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                  @coliver said:

                  https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/2x-client-for-2x-ras/nfkkcalpbgmfhnendooplbkmpfplmhga?hl=en does this work? I has this in the past. Of course we use the 2X Application Gateway at work and this won't allow you to do SSL connections.

                  No, from the blurb on that page "2X Client for 2X RAS does not support standard Microsoft RDP connection."

                  I'm sure it did recently though, as I'm sure that is what I was using.

                  2X has gone through a lot of changes recently... not all for the best in my opinion. Parallels recently bought them so maybe those changes were leading up to that.... They did indeed have a chrome app that allowed you to do RDP not sure what happened to it.

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                    Carnival Boy
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                    Cool. I guess I didn't dream it then.

                    The Fusion Labs client works ok. I can't seem to get it to work full screen though, which is annoying. And it's ten bucks.

                    Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                      @Carnival-Boy said:

                      Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

                      RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

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                        coliver @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                        Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

                        RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

                        Which RDP solution do you use on Linux? I have found them to be flaky and unstable on my Mint installation, I've tried a couple... it may be that it is an older laptop that doesn't handle a lot though.

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                          A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                          Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

                          RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

                          Yep. I've always used linux based thinclients.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @coliver
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                            @coliver said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Carnival-Boy said:

                            Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

                            RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

                            Which RDP solution do you use on Linux? I have found them to be flaky and unstable on my Mint installation, I've tried a couple... it may be that it is an older laptop that doesn't handle a lot though.

                            Just whatever is stock in the OS. Haven't had issues before.

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                              A Former User @coliver
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                              @coliver said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Carnival-Boy said:

                              Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

                              RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

                              Which RDP solution do you use on Linux? I have found them to be flaky and unstable on my Mint installation, I've tried a couple... it may be that it is an older laptop that doesn't handle a lot though.

                              What does it do?

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                                coliver @A Former User
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                                @thecreativeone91 said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Carnival-Boy said:

                                Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

                                RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

                                Which RDP solution do you use on Linux? I have found them to be flaky and unstable on my Mint installation, I've tried a couple... it may be that it is an older laptop that doesn't handle a lot though.

                                What does it do?

                                Just general wonkiness. Not displaying correctly, dropping connections, etc. Was on a 1Gb switch with no packet loss so it was just really odd. I will try it again tonight to see if that continues.

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                                  Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                                  Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

                                  RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

                                  Not according to this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2013/12/11/remote-desktop-protocol-licensing-available-for-rdp-8-0.aspx

                                  Microsoft requires RDP implementers to obtain a patent license for RDP

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                                    A Former User @Carnival Boy
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                                    @Carnival-Boy said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Carnival-Boy said:

                                    Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

                                    RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

                                    Not according to this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2013/12/11/remote-desktop-protocol-licensing-available-for-rdp-8-0.aspx

                                    Microsoft requires RDP implementers to obtain a patent license for RDP

                                    That's for Microsoft RDP 8. Not just RDP. Notice they used the term 'Microsoft RDP' everytime. Standard rdp is open. The license would be to use microsoft only features like RemoteFX.

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                                      Carnival Boy @A Former User
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                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      Notice they used the term 'Microsoft RDP' everytime.

                                      I can't see them use that term anywhere on that page? I didn't know there was a non-Microsoft RDP. Wikipedia just has an entry for RDP and it says it's proprietary protocol.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                                        Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

                                        RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

                                        Not according to this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2013/12/11/remote-desktop-protocol-licensing-available-for-rdp-8-0.aspx

                                        Microsoft requires RDP implementers to obtain a patent license for RDP

                                        To use THEIR RDP. Protocols cannot be patented in the US. Just because they obtained a patent doesn't mean that they can use it. Their implementation is protected, but not the protocol itself.

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                                          A Former User
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                                          This is the standard open specification for basic use. It does not include the fancy rdp features like remotefx.
                                          https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc240445.aspx

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                                            Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Just because they obtained a patent doesn't mean that they can use it. Their implementation is protected, but not the protocol itself.

                                            Say what?

                                            Let me put it another way - if I want to write and publish a client that will connect to a standard Windows desktop using RDP, do I need to obtain a patent licence from Microsoft (as they are saying I do) or don't I?

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