Asus Chromebox versus Asus VivoPC
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@Carnival-Boy said:
@coliver said:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/2x-client-for-2x-ras/nfkkcalpbgmfhnendooplbkmpfplmhga?hl=en does this work? I has this in the past. Of course we use the 2X Application Gateway at work and this won't allow you to do SSL connections.
No, from the blurb on that page "2X Client for 2X RAS does not support standard Microsoft RDP connection."
I'm sure it did recently though, as I'm sure that is what I was using.
2X has gone through a lot of changes recently... not all for the best in my opinion. Parallels recently bought them so maybe those changes were leading up to that.... They did indeed have a chrome app that allowed you to do RDP not sure what happened to it.
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Cool. I guess I didn't dream it then.
The Fusion Labs client works ok. I can't seem to get it to work full screen though, which is annoying. And it's ten bucks.
Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?
RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?
RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.
Which RDP solution do you use on Linux? I have found them to be flaky and unstable on my Mint installation, I've tried a couple... it may be that it is an older laptop that doesn't handle a lot though.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?
RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.
Yep. I've always used linux based thinclients.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?
RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.
Which RDP solution do you use on Linux? I have found them to be flaky and unstable on my Mint installation, I've tried a couple... it may be that it is an older laptop that doesn't handle a lot though.
Just whatever is stock in the OS. Haven't had issues before.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?
RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.
Which RDP solution do you use on Linux? I have found them to be flaky and unstable on my Mint installation, I've tried a couple... it may be that it is an older laptop that doesn't handle a lot though.
What does it do?
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?
RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.
Which RDP solution do you use on Linux? I have found them to be flaky and unstable on my Mint installation, I've tried a couple... it may be that it is an older laptop that doesn't handle a lot though.
What does it do?
Just general wonkiness. Not displaying correctly, dropping connections, etc. Was on a 1Gb switch with no packet loss so it was just really odd. I will try it again tonight to see if that continues.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?
RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.
Not according to this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2013/12/11/remote-desktop-protocol-licensing-available-for-rdp-8-0.aspx
Microsoft requires RDP implementers to obtain a patent license for RDP
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@Carnival-Boy said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?
RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.
Not according to this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2013/12/11/remote-desktop-protocol-licensing-available-for-rdp-8-0.aspx
Microsoft requires RDP implementers to obtain a patent license for RDP
That's for Microsoft RDP 8. Not just RDP. Notice they used the term 'Microsoft RDP' everytime. Standard rdp is open. The license would be to use microsoft only features like RemoteFX.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
Notice they used the term 'Microsoft RDP' everytime.
I can't see them use that term anywhere on that page? I didn't know there was a non-Microsoft RDP. Wikipedia just has an entry for RDP and it says it's proprietary protocol.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?
RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.
Not according to this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2013/12/11/remote-desktop-protocol-licensing-available-for-rdp-8-0.aspx
Microsoft requires RDP implementers to obtain a patent license for RDP
To use THEIR RDP. Protocols cannot be patented in the US. Just because they obtained a patent doesn't mean that they can use it. Their implementation is protected, but not the protocol itself.
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This is the standard open specification for basic use. It does not include the fancy rdp features like remotefx.
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc240445.aspx -
@scottalanmiller said:
Just because they obtained a patent doesn't mean that they can use it. Their implementation is protected, but not the protocol itself.
Say what?
Let me put it another way - if I want to write and publish a client that will connect to a standard Windows desktop using RDP, do I need to obtain a patent licence from Microsoft (as they are saying I do) or don't I?
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@Carnival-Boy said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Just because they obtained a patent doesn't mean that they can use it. Their implementation is protected, but not the protocol itself.
Say what?
Let me put it another way - if I want to write and publish a client that will connect to a standard Windows desktop using RDP, do I need to obtain a patent licence from Microsoft (as they are saying I do) or don't I?
You Dont. And they aren't saying you do. You only do if you want to implement Microsoft RDP. And specificly in this case it was Microsoft RDP 8.
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OK. So how do I connect to a Windows desktop using non-Microsoft RDP?
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Let me put it another way - if I want to write and publish a client that will connect to a standard Windows desktop using RDP, do I need to obtain a patent licence from Microsoft (as they are saying I do) or don't I?
No, you do not. There are laws that protect the usage of an API / protocol. Microsoft doesn't have to give you the details, but they can't stop you talking the language either.
It would be the same as making a patent on English and demanding anyone who wants to speak it pay for a license to your tongue movements, even if they are just mimicking the sounds.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
OK. So how do I connect to a Windows desktop using non-Microsoft RDP?
It's a protocol. You just speak the language.
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OK. Cool. I still don't have a free Chromebook RDP client, mind.
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Its the same as VNC there is the standard open version. Then there are portierairy ones using extra features. Any vnc client should connect to it but, will not have the extra proritetarty features.
