Hardware Based or Cloud based video conference
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@thecreativeone91 said:
Maybe you should learn you don't know everything. As I said before Software will be fine for most people, but there are cases where only hardware will meet the need.
Okay, but when you make rude statements like that, back them up. What hardware is this that can make business teleconferencing better than software can do?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
Dude.. This obviously isn't your specialty. I've worked in pro video productions most of my life both in post production houses as well as affiliates such as NBC, ABC and CBS along with productions for America's Got talent. They are not "smoke and mirror"; real world test prove the differences.
I think you are confusing "making a television show" with teleconferencing. This is a thread about teleconferencing. What do TV shows have to do with it? Very different workflows.
I didn't just say teleconference systems. I specifically said tel-presence full on teleprsense systems are setup in such a way that the space of wear the video is being broadcast to will look like the place it is being broadcast from using multiple cameras, large tv's projectors to give you the full experience. This is heavily used in court systems here, and software just doesn't cut it.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
I didn't just say teleconference systems. I specifically said tel-presence full on teleprsense systems are setup in such a way that the space of wear the video is being broadcast to will look like the place it is being broadcast from using multiple cameras, large tv's projectors to give you the full experience. This is heavily used in court systems here, and software just doesn't cut it.
What kind of gear are they using to do that? And is it above 1080p? Software solutions are definitely delivering 1080p easily these days, in real time.
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I'm not saying that you should use Google Hangouts for something like that. I'm simply saying that software based systems can do the compression. You still need a carefully built system with low latency connections between locations and things like that. It's not a trivial system. But something like Asterisk and pure software, when built for it, will push some extreme high definition video.
Keep in mind that we are discussing systems in this thread that are also pushing desktop sharing, not just video. You can mix that into anything, obviously, but the assumption is that this is desktop level sharing so a hardware solution would need to be at each person's desktop.
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And my point about hardware wasn't that it wasn't potentially faster, certainly you can make some insanely fast hardware. But it was that software compression is fast enough for the need. And in video compression, once you hit fast "enough", it really is "enough." When you are conferencing on a 100ms link, 2ms or 1ms of compression time doesn't matter.
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@scottalanmiller I have tried polycom real presence desktop software to connect to the Hardware device and from that we can share the desktop meanwhile having conference .
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@sreekumarpg said:
@scottalanmiller I have tried polycom real presence desktop software to connect to the Hardware device and from that we can share the desktop meanwhile having conference .
Yes, you can do it. But the compression is happening in software. What value is the hardware providing, in that case?
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What hardware device have you been testing out?
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From the above point for video conference ,cloud based will be suite as it doesn't required to purchase any dedicated hardware and can be used in any device. But am concern with the room conference camera ,as hardware will have a high resolution camera which cover the whole team in a conference room, but how we can integrate that to the software or cloud based solution
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@scottalanmiller said:
t hardware device have you been testing out?
Polycom HDX 7000 hardware device as hardware
Polycom real presence desktop as software to have VC for remote desktop user. -
@sreekumarpg said:
From the above point for video conference ,cloud based will be suite as it doesn't required to purchase any dedicated hardware and can be used in any device. But am concern with the room conference camera ,as hardware will have a high resolution camera which cover the whole team in a conference room, but how we can integrate that to the software or cloud based solution
Cloud is handy, but you already ruled out anything hosted. So doesn't that mean that "cloud" could only mean running your own gear in a colo? And that means that you are dealing with all dedicated hardware again.
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@sreekumarpg said:
But am concern with the room conference camera ,as hardware will have a high resolution camera ......
I don't follow. Hardware or software doesn't change the resolution of the camera.
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@sreekumarpg said:
From the above point for video conference ,cloud based will be suite as it doesn't required to purchase any dedicated hardware and can be used in any device. But am concern with the room conference camera ,as hardware will have a high resolution camera which cover the whole team in a conference room, but how we can integrate that to the software or cloud based solution
Are you asking how you attach the camera in your conference room to the cloud based software?
I'd think it would be thought the PC that hosts that camera which is running both the cloud software, for example Skype, and camera driver.
@scottalanmiller comment about no needing hardware is, I think, meaning that you don't need special exclusive branded hardware to do the video conferencing, you just use a commodity PC/laptop as the interface to the software and other commodity hardware (microphones/cameras, etc).
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller comment about no needing hardware is, I think, meaning that you don't need special exclusive branded hardware to do the video conferencing, you just use a commodity PC/laptop as the interface to the software.
Right, meaning compression and gateways that run in software not in firmware.
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Thanks all for the comments and suggestion.
. I will do a test based on the suggestions and will update.
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@sreekumarpg did you manage to do the tests?
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Hey guys
I am currently working on to setup conference rooms connecting our 3 offices, and thinking of keeping it simple by using Skype!
We have MAC minis spare @ our office, so planning to set that and connect to our conference room TVs, and setup a generic account. Map the network drive with one folder where everyone can drop in their files that needs for their meeting. Reason for MAC is we have some users with keynotes.
The audio will be through the SONOS speaker system which is used in the conference room already.
Now looking for good MIC and Cameras. I think the camera should be a wide angle HD camera and MIC is possible a wifi with USB dongle, that I can connect to the MAC and keep the mic at the center of the table so it is accessible for everyone. (With noise cancellation for sure)
Camera, I am thinking of:
And Mic xTag USB
Suggestions please
