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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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      @thanksaj said:

      That just seems odd to me...

      Most Linux distros already come with the equivalent tools from Xen and KVM, why not VMware. Some, like Suse, come with HyperV's tools already as well. I think that it is both the most natural thing ever, given the way that all other packages in Linux work, and one of the smartest as it makes Linux so much easier than ever before and than anyone else.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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        @nadnerB said:

        I think it's very clever. One less thing to install later.

        While that's nice, I think that it is minor. The far better thing is that the package is tested and maintained and automatically updated!

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        • coliverC
          coliver @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @thanksaj said:

          That just seems odd to me...

          Most Linux distros already come with the equivalent tools from Xen and KVM, why not VMware. Some, like Suse, come with HyperV's tools already as well. I think that it is both the most natural thing ever, given the way that all other packages in Linux work, and one of the smartest as it makes Linux so much easier than ever before and than anyone else.

          CentOS 7 also comes with Hyper-V tools pre-installed.

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            MrWright4hire @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            CentOS has the VMware tools built in in version 7.

            With that being said, should I try to delete the files that I extracted from the vmware disc that I mounted? Will it cause any problems having extra vmware folder in /tmp.

            Thank for that feed back.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @coliver
              last edited by

              @coliver said:

              CentOS 7 also comes with Hyper-V tools pre-installed.

              Awesome.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @MrWright4hire
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                @MrWright4hire said:

                With that being said, should I try to delete the files that I extracted from the vmware disc that I mounted? Will it cause any problems having extra vmware folder in /tmp.

                Just wastes space. Just delete everything from /tmp. Many systems, like Solaris, mount /tmp into memory so that it is automatically flushed after every reboot. Many other systems use a cron job to blow away /tmp when it is on disk on a routine basis so that it doesn't collect dust.

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                  MrWright4hire @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @MrWright4hire said:

                  With that being said, should I try to delete the files that I extracted from the vmware disc that I mounted? Will it cause any problems having extra vmware folder in /tmp.

                  Just wastes space. Just delete everything from /tmp. Many systems, like Solaris, mount /tmp into memory so that it is automatically flushed after every reboot. Many other systems use a cron job to blow away /tmp when it is on disk on a routine basis so that it doesn't collect dust.

                  Will do! Thanks again for the feed back.

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                    MrWright4hire
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                    Hello Mango fam. I need a lil help with linux command. The issue is that I added a group and added users that group, but when I use "ls -l" I don't see the group listed by the users name. When I go into each individual user directory I don't see the group that I assign them to. However, when I do cat /etc/group I see the group and the members I assigned.
                    Why can I not see them when I'm in the user dir, home dir and use "ls -l"?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      The ls command is short for "list" and it simply lists the files in a directory, nothing more. It shows who the owner is of a file or folder and who the group owner is, but it tells you nothing about which users and members of which groups. That's a different concept not related to the filesystem.

                      Use the "id" command instead.

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                        MrWright4hire
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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @MrWright4hire
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                          @MrWright4hire said:

                          Here you go @scottalanmiller:

                          [New Microsoft Office Word Document (2).docx](uploading 100%)

                          You posted while it was still uploading. You have to wait until it completes and the portion that says (uploading 100%) turns into the image link rather than a status message.

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                            MrWright4hire
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                            Here you go Scott:

                            linux1.JPG

                            linux2.JPG

                            You see how bob has projectX by his name in the first exhibit. I want to make it like that.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Why are you putting screenshots into Word before uploading them? Just upload the screenshot directly.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Okay, so what you are showing here, with the ls command, is which user (UID) and which group (GID) are assigned as the owners of a set of files or folders (folders are a type of file in Linux.)

                                So the folder (a.k.a. directory) named Bob used to belong to Bob (user) and ProjectX (group.) Now it has been changed to Bob (the user) and Bob (the group.) None of this alters either Bob the user nor Bob the group but just changed who is listed as the owners of the directory named Bob.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  As a point of good practice, things like usernames, groups, and generally files, should be all lowercase. This is not Windows and sloppiness does not work out well. There is no need to capitals and it will make your life a nightmare. Bob and bob are two different things.

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                                    MrWright4hire @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    As a point of good practice, things like usernames, groups, and generally files, should be all lowercase. This is not Windows and sloppiness does not work out well. There is no need to capitals and it will make your life a nightmare. Bob and bob are two different things.

                                    Gotchu! So can you walk me through how to make my Bob, in exhibit 2 match the bob in exhibit 1? I'm going crazy now. lol!

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      You need to start over. Your Bob and their bob are not similar. They have different names and everything.

                                      You need to great a user named bob, a group named projectX and a folder named bob. You can do this side by side with what you currently have since Bob and bob are unrelated as users, groups or files.

                                      Once you create the right user, group and folder you use the chown command to change the user owner of a file and chgrp to change the group owner of a file. (There is a shortcut for this that I am not providing for reasons of clarity.)

                                      So once everything exists you would use...

                                      chown bob bob
                                      chgrp projectX bob
                                      

                                      To make the folder named "bob" belong to the user bob and the group projectX.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        And this highlights why you need to both 1) be accurate when working from anything and not assume that you can change spellings, capitalization or otherwise because you never know when those things matter and 2) never use capitals in anything (UNIX especially) unless you really, really intend to because you are just setting yourself up for problems.

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                                          MrWright4hire @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          You need to start over. Your Bob and their bob are not similar. They have different names and everything.

                                          You need to great a user named bob, a group named projectX and a folder named bob. You can do this side by side with what you currently have since Bob and bob are unrelated as users, groups or files.

                                          Once you create the right user, group and folder you use the chown command to change the user owner of a file and chgrp to change the group owner of a file. (There is a shortcut for this that I am not providing for reasons of clarity.)

                                          So once everything exists you would use...

                                          chown bob bob
                                          chgrp projectX bob
                                          

                                          To make the folder named "bob" belong to the user bob and the group projectX.

                                          Thank you so much Big brotha! I got it to be how I want it. I'll keep in mind about the Capitalization. I got rid of Bob with userdel -r Bob and added useradd bob.
                                          Nevertheless, I'm good now. Thank you again for inspiring me again.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            I've always done all of my user management manually. That means editing /etc/passwd, /etc/group and /etc/shadow by hand. And creating directories for them by hand. But it makes knowing what is happening much easier. And you don't have to know any tools. I don't know how to use useradd or adduser commands because I've always skipped them. Every environment I've ever worked in didn't use those commands. They are in every "learning UNIX" book, but I know no full time admins who use them - they tend to be crutches and are only useful in a setting where you 1) only deal with a single machine and 2) are trying to quickly bypass knowing what is going on on the system.

                                            I would skip that stuff and just edit the files. It's pretty easy.

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