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    1984 is Here, Samsung Smart TV is Monitoring You

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    • tonyshowoffT
      tonyshowoff @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender It seems to say:

      "The TV continues sending data for several more seconds after the set appears to be off."

      So, it doesn't matter that it's behind the router if it's coming from the TV itself, instead of the other way around.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        @Nic said:

        Good lord, it just keeps getting worse: http://slashdot.org/submission/4197957/samsung-what-is-my-smarttv-reporting-to-whom

        The site said:

        A wireshark capture shows that remote sites are trying to access my TV until I turn it on,

        Wait, how's that possible? If the TV didn't send out any requests, how are requests getting back to his TV? He mentioned that he was behind a router.

        "Off" in television terms normally means that the logic is still on.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          "Off" in television terms normally means that the logic is still on.

          Sure, I know that, but the author didn't mention that the TV made a request before that flood of pre turned on packets. He's trying to make it sound worse than it is..

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            "Off" in television terms normally means that the logic is still on.

            Sure, I know that, but the author didn't mention that the TV made a request before that flood of pre turned on packets. He's trying to make it sound worse than it is..

            Maybe, or maybe he is trying to make it sound better than it is by leaving out that the TV made a DLNA request and opened ports on the firewall.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              "Off" in television terms normally means that the logic is still on.

              Sure, I know that, but the author didn't mention that the TV made a request before that flood of pre turned on packets. He's trying to make it sound worse than it is..

              Maybe, or maybe he is trying to make it sound better than it is by leaving out that the TV made a DLNA request and opened ports on the firewall.

              OMG, I hadn't considered that - and it's entirely possible, na likely!

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              • DominicaD
                Dominica
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                Just creepy.

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                • SeanExabloxS
                  SeanExablox
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                  I also prefer my TVs to be 'dumb' and in 2D. How many people cover up the cameras on their monitors or laptops? I don't

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @SeanExablox
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                    @SeanExablox I worked at a place where everyone did. Every tablet, every laptop had their cameras taped over because everyone was convinced that the company was using the devices to spy on the employees. People would pull the batteries out of their Blackberries anytime they didn't need them to guarantee that the camera couldn't be turned on secretly.

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                    • SeanExabloxS
                      SeanExablox @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller so that's a function of not trusting the company, not a 'boogey man' or the manufacturer spying on you.

                      Did everyone decorate their camera stickers 🙂

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @SeanExablox
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                        @SeanExablox said:

                        @scottalanmiller so that's a function of not trusting the company, not a 'boogey man' or the manufacturer spying on you.

                        Did everyone decorate their camera stickers 🙂

                        Nope, just tape and white paper.

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                        • J
                          julian @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          I prefer my TVs to be "dumb", just monitors.

                          Likewise. The same goes with cars, though I also feel this way because car and television manufacturers are pretty godawful at creating a good interface.

                          Last time I had a GPS device, the wanted $299 and a US shipping address to deliver the map update package, a digital asset. Why bother when the interface and maps are updated for free by Google?

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                          • SeanExabloxS
                            SeanExablox @julian
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                            @julian my Jetta came with GPS, but I never use it. iPhone & Waze is the go to.

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                            • NicN
                              Nic @Dashrender
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                              Better and better - your voice traffic isn't even encrypted:
                              http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/17/samsung_smart_tv_privacy_rewind/

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Nic
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                                @Nic fail

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  WTF, they use 443 but do not encrypt. lazy pricks.

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