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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @thanksajdotcom
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      @thanksajdotcom said:

      @nadnerB said:

      @thanksajdotcom said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      I don't have access to the router. I just rent the house.

      Seriously? Have you tried the default login?

      Not everyone is into illicit access to other peoples stuff

      If he backs up the config and restores it if and when he leaves, what's the problem?

      The problem is that he doesn't have the right to do this. Period. Now, if he asks the owner, perhaps they will allow him, otherwise he could be in huge trouble.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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        @dafyre said:

        Also, would something like BackBlaze work? Better warn them up front what you are doing, lol.

        Ideally I want to offload the data not store here. The issue with BackBlaze, which I like a lot as a backup service, is that you need to have all of the storage connected all of the time. I can't do that. I have several USB drives to hold the stuff until it is backed up. But they can't all be connected all of the time for BB to upload the data 😞

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @dafyre
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          @dafyre said:

          I have actually used ownCloud for file Syncing and such.

          I have an ownCloud to use, but it doesn't the capacity that I need.

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          • nadnerBN
            nadnerB @thanksajdotcom
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            @thanksajdotcom said:

            @thanksajdotcom said:

            @nadnerB said:

            @thanksajdotcom said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            I don't have access to the router. I just rent the house.

            Seriously? Have you tried the default login?

            Not everyone is into illicit access to other peoples stuff

            If he backs up the config and restores it if and when he leaves, what's the problem?

            Besides, if someone can't be bothered to change the default router password, I put that on them.

            If someone leaves the key to their house IN the front door (on the outside, are you allowed to turn it and enter?

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            • thanksajdotcomT
              thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              @thanksajdotcom said:

              @nadnerB said:

              @thanksajdotcom said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              I don't have access to the router. I just rent the house.

              Seriously? Have you tried the default login?

              Not everyone is into illicit access to other peoples stuff

              If he backs up the config and restores it if and when he leaves, what's the problem?

              The problem is that he doesn't have the right to do this. Period. Now, if he asks the owner, perhaps they will allow him, otherwise he could be in huge trouble.

              Not sure how or why. As long as it's back to the way it was for the next bloke, but whatever.

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              • thanksajdotcomT
                thanksajdotcom @nadnerB
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                @nadnerB said:

                @thanksajdotcom said:

                @thanksajdotcom said:

                @nadnerB said:

                @thanksajdotcom said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                I don't have access to the router. I just rent the house.

                Seriously? Have you tried the default login?

                Not everyone is into illicit access to other peoples stuff

                If he backs up the config and restores it if and when he leaves, what's the problem?

                Besides, if someone can't be bothered to change the default router password, I put that on them.

                If someone leaves the key to their house IN the front door (on the outside, are you allowed to turn it and enter?

                Slightly different, but when they call the cops they're going to facepalm for sure...

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  AJ, there is a difference between morally grey and legal - While sure, most people would probably do exactly what you are saying - but they wouldn't be crazy enough to go and post about it on public board.

                  This would be like saying - hey I have this Windows Server license that I completely know I can't legally assign to a cloud hosted service, but hey it's not hurting anyone, and as long as I remove it before I get caught who cares - oh wait... you already said that.

                  It's about having morals.

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                  • ?
                    A Former User
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                    And this is locked in...... 3.......2.........1.........

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                    • Minion QueenM
                      Minion Queen Banned
                      last edited by

                      Not going to lock it but please stop arguing about stuff like this. You are driving me nuts. @Dashrender is right. End of story

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller As you mentioned a little bit ago... build a SAM-SD and add OwnCloud. 8-)

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                          @dafyre said:

                          @scottalanmiller As you mentioned a little bit ago... build a SAM-SD and add OwnCloud. 8-)

                          That would work, of course. But the up front cost would be high and the hosting cost would be high. Minimum of $50 / month just to host it. That's more money in 40 days than Amazon is a year.

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                          • Deleted74295D
                            Deleted74295 Banned
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                            Why in the name of soup do you need 4K footage? 🙂

                            Are you going to be colour grading the footage? Or just correcting brightness levels.

                            RAW footage is expensive to store and is huge, what are you doing where you will genuinely get the benefit of it?

                            Considering most footage that you see is .h284 compressed at 6-12 meg per second for most consumption on the internet, should you re-consider the 4K RAW idea?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
                              last edited by

                              @Breffni-Potter said:

                              Considering most footage that you see is .h284 compressed at 6-12 meg per second for most consumption on the internet, should you re-consider the 4K RAW idea?

                              We're doing 50Mb/s finals, so we need even more than that raw for editing. Considering 4K is the FINAL format, doing less than that for editing wouldn't work.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
                                last edited by

                                @Breffni-Potter said:

                                Are you going to be colour grading the footage? Or just correcting brightness levels.

                                You'd have to ask the editor.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  Ignore my post in the other thread, this thread is better suited to the topic.

                                  Why is your editor wanting to produce 4K video?

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Why do you need RAW 4K for production? Why not record in RAW HD?

                                    Because HD is far too low. We WANT to be recording in 8K so that we can compress down to 4K. But that's not a reasonable option.

                                    WHY? what are you hoping to gain by running it at 4K for the production? Heck most theaters don't even have those projectors.

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                                    • Deleted74295D
                                      Deleted74295 Banned
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                                      I'm just thinking that's a really expensive project in terms of time/storage and editing costs, what are you guys producing where you genuinely need 4K RAW footage.

                                      Apple Pro-res 4:4:2:2 should give the editor a huge amount of grading scope without breaking the storage bank.

                                      I have to say, 4K raw is an ambitious idea considering the amount of footage you are looking to capture, especially given all the other factors on those Go-Pro cameras, sensor size, quality of the glass, you'll run into that as the quality barrier quicker than file format will.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        WHY? what are you hoping to gain by running it at 4K for the production? Heck most theaters don't even have those projectors.

                                        I've got people using 4K already. I can't imagine not making 4K today. We are well into the HD is old hat era. I've not been to a theater without a lot more than 4K in over a decade. Don't know what you have been seeing but 4K is already streaming from YouTube and Amazon and is about to be available from Netflix. We are into the "4K is commodity" era nearly. You can't really be wanting to make old 1080p still today.

                                        Remember production has to look forward, not backwards. No matter what was popular last year, those things are going to look really, really dated very quickly. Even iMacs are beyond 4K now! Our laptops here are 4K and 8K!!

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
                                          last edited by

                                          @Breffni-Potter said:

                                          I'm just thinking that's a really expensive project in terms of time/storage and editing costs, what are you guys producing where you genuinely need 4K RAW footage.

                                          Commercial video.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
                                            last edited by

                                            @Breffni-Potter said:

                                            I have to say, 4K raw is an ambitious idea considering the amount of footage you are looking to capture, especially given all the other factors on those Go-Pro cameras, sensor size, quality of the glass, you'll run into that as the quality barrier quicker than file format will.

                                            Have you SEEN the images coming off of these? It's not a Red by any stretch, but they look absolutely amazing.

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