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    Small Business Server 2003 to 2012 R2 Migration and Virtualized Domain Controller Questions

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    • art_of_shredA
      art_of_shred Banned @garak0410
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      • art_of_shredA
        art_of_shred Banned @garak0410
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        @garak0410 Oh, and it doesn't go on a vm; it IS a vm.

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        • art_of_shredA
          art_of_shred Banned @garak0410
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          @garak0410 The Unitrends UEB is either deployed on Hyper-V or VMware.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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            @art_of_shred said:

            Free UEB is going away? Did I get that right?

            That's how I'm reading what she said. That's surprising. Well not really, it is a pretty major giveaway. Free products like that really don't drive sales very well. People who come to you because your product is free rarely want to spend money later. It can happen, but it is rare.

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            • garak0410G
              garak0410 @garak0410
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              @garak0410 said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              I would generally wait until after hours but should be pretty safe in most environments. AD is rarely something that an SMB depends on minute to minute.

              Tempting to do now...but I can VPN around 5:30 and run it too.

              I tried running ADPREP and it didn't work since my current Domain Controller is 32 bit. So if I understand this article correct:

              http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2743367

              It has to be run remotely? It was kind of vague.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                That article is only for windows 2003 64bit. If you have 32bit then that KB does not apply.

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                • garak0410G
                  garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  That article is only for windows 2003 64bit. If you have 32bit then that KB does not apply.

                  Well, regardless, I am stuck at this point and I'll begin my research there. 😞

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    What error are you getting? Not sure what problem you are running into.

                    Really this should be its own question as it isn't really a continuation of the original thought and needs discrete troubleshooting. Tacking it on into the stream of this discussion will make it hard to troubleshoot and anyone joining now won't see this question in the middle.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Have you checked this video:

                      Youtube Video

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        And I assume that you've been through this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh472161.aspx#BKMK_NewAdprep

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                        • scottalanmillerS
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                          And some discussion here too: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/0eb5670e-1786-4b1c-b970-30fe0f28583e/adding-server-2012-as-dc-to-server-2003-domain-getting-adprep-error?forum=winserver8setup

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                          • garak0410G
                            garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            And some discussion here too: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/0eb5670e-1786-4b1c-b970-30fe0f28583e/adding-server-2012-as-dc-to-server-2003-domain-getting-adprep-error?forum=winserver8setup

                            Excellent video and links. Thanks...

                            The backup issue is having me lean toward just going physical and not virtualizing. I asked again if we could spare a few thousand on a backup solution and they said not right now. And the Unitrends option looks off the table for now.

                            I understand the benefits of virtualization but being that I want to get this done this week as my VBA (yuck) projects are piling up, I may just go physical with a one, do it all, beefy server.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Why is Unitrends off of the table? What did I miss?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                How does being physical fix the backup issue?

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                                • garak0410G
                                  garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Why is Unitrends off of the table? What did I miss?

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  How does being physical fix the backup issue?

                                  Sorry, I may be confused again. If the free version is being phased out or hard to get now, what can I do? What about VEEAM free?

                                  Physical just to not deal with the frustrations with this entire migration and trying to go virtual too. Just one server for all we did (which really isn't much)...

                                  More of a "vent" because other mounting projects and interruptions all day today so far...

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    But it IS free. Why turn it down just because the price might go up after you've gotten it for free. It's already yours and free.

                                    And "going away" is a soft term. You are on Spiceworks and if you search the thread about free going away you'll see that for spiceheads it is remaining available for free.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
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                                      There should be zero frustrations with the virtual. If you feel there is any frustration, something is wrong. Virtual is pure win. Easier, safer, more reliable.

                                      I've not seen you have any issues with the virtual portions of your project. If you go physical doesn't every concern remain plus you lose your free backup options plus you lose stability and ease of management?

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                                      • garak0410G
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                                        Side question - Are remote desktop connects to a Hyper-V machine usually sluggish? I RDP into my VM for services and it is just a little sluggish. Want to make sure that doesn't translate into sluggish performance later when I go "live."

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Going virtual isn't related to you moving away from one server. You are combining concepts in your mind. Even if you go with a single server you should still be virtual.

                                          That's what I'm trying to get across. If you perceive any negative to going virtual - that's a red flag. It means that almost certainly you are tying something to virtual that is not a part of it.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @garak0410
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                                            @garak0410 said:

                                            Side question - Are remote desktop connects to a Hyper-V machine usually sluggish? I RDP into my VM for services and it is just a little sluggish. Want to make sure that doesn't translate into sluggish performance later when I go "live."

                                            No. Should not be sluggish. HyperV performance should be indistinguishable from physical.

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